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Re: [gaia] What if all phones were always on the Internet?

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Fri, 27 November 2015 01:11 UTC

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On 26/11/15 20:34, Dirk Kutscher wrote:
> Unfortunately little of this is being considered in the still
> relatively bellhead-dominated 5G efforts...

How would that best be progressed? I think there are good ideas
here (adding delay-tolerant features to mainstream protocols) but
I'm not sure how to get those ingrained in e.g. 5g stuff.

S.

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