Re: [gaia] What if all phones were always on the Internet?

There are two different service categories that I find interesting:

1) Ubiquituous, low-cost (or free) Baseline mobile communication (like T-Mobile USA's international 64kbit/s service).

2) Broadcast data service, e.g., over long-range radio or more dense digital broadcast services.

Japan had digital broadcast in phones since 2006 ("oneseg", based on the Japanese ISDB-T standard for digital terrestial broadcast). This could also be used for earthquake warnings, and, of course EPG distribution etc.

Here is a link to a report by DOCOMO from that time: https://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/english/binary/pdf/corporate/technology/rd/technical_journal/bn/vol8_1/vol8_1_047en.pdf

My view is that it's about time to extend the general understanding of mobile communication to services like delay-tolerant background transmission or proactive information distribution.

Unfortunately little of this is being considered in the still relatively bellhead-dominated 5G efforts...

--
Dirk

Am 26.11.2015 um 20:51 schrieb Jim Forster <jrforster@mac.com<mailto:jrforster@mac.com>>:

Steve,

I think it’s a great idea!

AirJaldi has been recently offering two different pre-paid hot spot systems.  One, called XWF (Express WiFi) is offered in Rishikesh and Garwhal district of Uttrakhand.  Facebook/Internet.org<http://internet.org> did the software for XWF; AirJaldi deployed the access points on our backbone in that district and manages the sales agents.  See this NY Time article<http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/10/25/facebook-strives-to-bring-cheap-wi-fi-to-rural-india-2/> for more info.  It is intended that this system will use their Free Basics system to give free access to certain sites.

The second pre-paid service AirJaldi has is called JaldiFi. A couple AirJaldi engineers did the software, using various Mikrotik & Ubiquity features.  JaldiFi is deploying in various places throughout AirJaldi’s network, including Kangra Valley, Kumaon, and Jharkand.  JaldiFi does not use Free Basics; instead we simply give registered users 10-20MB/day free service.  Registration is free and automated (users must supply a mobile phone number & then we send them a username/pw).  It’s obvious but worth noting that 10MB is 1/100th of 1GB, so a lot of ‘free’ users don’t impact the network much. It’s our belief that if the service is priced affordably, enough people will pay to make it worth our while.  Pricing is about Rs80/GB (~$1.25/GB), with some plans for as little Rs25.  Kumaon area prices are here<http://www.jaldifi.net/kumaon.html>.

Mawingu in Kenya does it a little differently.  For about 300Ksh, users get high speed service for a month, or if they don’t have that much money, they can buy a week’s service for 100Ksh.  Mawingu doesn’t give them completely unlimited service, but we find that the great majority of customers don’t use too much for us; email & web browsing is easily accommodated, but heavy YouTube/video watching eats up the MBs quickly.  The heaviest users will find then that their speed slowed way down, to about 128kbps.  That’s fine for email & tolerable for web browsing so they’re not cut off, but if they want more high speed for video, they’ll need to pay some more.

US-centric salutation: Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

  — Jim

On Nov 26, 2015, at 6:36 AM, Steve Song <stevesong@nsrc.org<mailto:stevesong@nsrc.org>> wrote:

Hi all,

Following on some of the previous discussion about the non-linear relationship between Internet speed and value to the consumer; and reflecting on some of the discussions on zero-rating at the IGF; and thinking further about the PAYG model that enabled the dramatic growth of mobile telephony in emerging markets, I came to the conclusion that a low-bitrate, always-on Internet for all mobile phones would benefit everyone.

https://manypossibilities.net/2015/11/zero-rating-a-modest-proposal/

Would love to have the idea critiqued (gently).

Thanks... Steve Song

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