Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets feedback
Greg Wilkins <gregw@webtide.com> Sat, 17 April 2010 07:26 UTC
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Subject: Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets feedback
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Ian Hickson wrote: > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Pieter Hintjens wrote: >> Ian, do you accept that answering a specific question many weeks later, >> in the middle of a hundred other questions, is akin to putting the reply >> on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused >> lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard'...? > > That certainly hasn't been my experience in the WHATWG. On the contrary, > in fact; the way things have ended up working in the WHATWG is that a > bunch of people state their requirements and provide relevant data, then > in due course I wrap all the e-mails on a particular section of the spec > into one e-mail and go through taking into account all the arguments, > requirements, and data into account, making any needed changes to the > spec, and then anyone interested in the topic replies to the relevant > parts of the e-mail if they have new arguments or data to present, or to > clarify misunderstandings or point out any errors I made. Ian, that sounds like a reasonable approach for the WhatWG process, where you are the ultimate authority as to what goes into the document. With the whatwg process, the feedback and contributors have to convince you of their requirements and ideas - and once convinced you will add them. The IETF process is different and requires and editor to separate their role as editor from their role as contributor. An IETF editor may have to add something to a document which is the rough consensus of the WG, but which they personally as an expert disagree with. Thus the IETF discussions need to revolve a lot less about what *you* think, and thus your consolidated opinions are less valuable to the process. Consolidating summary of consensus and updates done as editor would be valuable, but there should be a clear distinction between your role as editor and your own opinions. regards
- [hybi] Revised WebSocket Feedback Vladimir Katardjiev
- Re: [hybi] Revised WebSocket Feedback Takeshi Yoshino
- Re: [hybi] Revised WebSocket Feedback Fumitoshi Ukai (鵜飼文敏)
- Re: [hybi] Revised WebSocket Feedback Takeshi Yoshino
- [hybi] WebSockets feedback Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] WebSockets feedback Pieter Hintjens
- Re: [hybi] WebSockets feedback Greg Wilkins
- [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets feedback Julian Reschke
- Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets fee… Pieter Hintjens
- Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets fee… Anne van Kesteren
- Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets fee… Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets fee… Julian Reschke
- Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets fee… Michael Carter
- Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets fee… Justin Erenkrantz
- Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets fee… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets fee… Julian Reschke
- Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets fee… SM
- Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets fee… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets fee… Tim Bray
- Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets fee… Pieter Hintjens
- Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets fee… SM
- Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets fee… Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets fee… Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets fee… Pieter Hintjens
- Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets fee… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets fee… L.Wood