Re: [Idr] 答复: WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt (7/15 to 7/29/2020)

Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> Fri, 24 July 2020 20:26 UTC

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From: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 16:26:41 -0400
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Thanks Robert.  Glad to hear.👍

Gyan

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:02 AM Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote:

> > If wide communities has been abandoned
>
> It has not been abandoned. We were waiting for more implementations -
> that's all.
>
> Thx.
>
> R.
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 3:44 PM Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Everyone
>>
>> There has been a lot of concern related to this draft after being adopted
>> in 2019 and not having much feedback till now on WGLC.
>>
>> I agree with Ketan’s comments that it is two early for WGLC as their are
>> significant questions and concerns that need to be addressed before we can
>> proceed any further.
>>
>> A question was raised as is this an NMS function similar to BGP flowspec
>> and if so then netconf and Yang already provides that solution.
>>
>> For SR we already have a centralized PCE controller based policy push
>> that utilizes BGP LS to gather path information from the IGP for path
>> steering.
>>
>> This draft seems to be reinventing a wheel that has been invented.
>>
>> 1) Do you feel this draft has an solution that is acceptable
>>
>>    With the IPR as a WG RFC?  No
>>
>>
>>
>> 2) Do you feel this draft is ready to publish? No
>>
>>
>>
>> 3) Do you know of implementations of this draft? No
>>
>>
>>
>> 4) Do you know of deployments of this draft?  No
>>
>> If so, is this feature useful in the deploy ments.
>>
>>
>>
>> 5) Do you feel that Wide Communities is ready for
>>
>> Publication?
>>
>> From the data tracker for wide communities the draft was adopted but
>> since has expired.  The RPD draft is hinged on publication of wide
>> communities. If wide communities has been abandoned I think that would
>> impact this draft.
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-wide-bgp-communities/
>>
>> My suggestion as others have stated is to not proceed with this document
>> on WGLC and have further discussion if agreed to analyze how this draft
>> fills a gap that exist today given the current solutions we have today with
>> NMS Yang and Netconf as well as existing centralized PCE controller based
>> solution for SR-TE policy push.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards
>>
>> Gyan
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 8:56 AM Ou Liang <ouliang@chinatelecom.cn> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     I support the WGLC of the draft.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Liang Ou as a co-author
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *发件人:* Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] *代表 *Susan Hares
>>> *发送时间:* 2020年7月15日 21:11
>>>
>>> *收件人:* idr@ietf.org
>>> *主题:* [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt (7/15 to 7/29/2020)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This begins a 2 week WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd
>>>
>>> from 7/15 to 7/29/2020.  You can obtain this draft at:
>>>
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-rpd/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This draft defines a new AFI/SAFI and new atoms
>>>
>>> for the Wide Communities.  This WG LC has been delayed
>>>
>>> as I waited for a resubmission of the Wide Communities draft.
>>>
>>> I had hoped to do these 2 WG LC in parallel.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ve not received the Wide Communities draft, but we will
>>>
>>> start this WGLC to provide feedback to the authors.
>>>
>>> We may have to run a short follow-up to this WG LC
>>>
>>> If there are changes to the Wide Communities draft during
>>>
>>> Its WG LC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There is an IPR statement on this draft.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In your responses please answer the following questions:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) Do you feel this draft has an solution that is acceptable
>>>
>>>    With the IPR as a WG RFC?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2) Do you feel this draft is ready to publish?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 3) Do you know of implementations of this draft?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 4) Do you know of deployments of this draft?
>>>
>>> If so, is this feature useful in the deploy ments.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 5) Do you feel that Wide Communities is ready for
>>>
>>> Publication?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheerily, Susan Hares
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