Re: [Idr] 答复: WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt (7/15 to 7/29/2020)
Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> Fri, 24 July 2020 20:26 UTC
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From: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 16:26:41 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Idr] 答复: WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt (7/15 to 7/29/2020)
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Thanks Robert. Glad to hear.👍 Gyan On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:02 AM Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote: > > If wide communities has been abandoned > > It has not been abandoned. We were waiting for more implementations - > that's all. > > Thx. > > R. > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 3:44 PM Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Hi Everyone >> >> There has been a lot of concern related to this draft after being adopted >> in 2019 and not having much feedback till now on WGLC. >> >> I agree with Ketan’s comments that it is two early for WGLC as their are >> significant questions and concerns that need to be addressed before we can >> proceed any further. >> >> A question was raised as is this an NMS function similar to BGP flowspec >> and if so then netconf and Yang already provides that solution. >> >> For SR we already have a centralized PCE controller based policy push >> that utilizes BGP LS to gather path information from the IGP for path >> steering. >> >> This draft seems to be reinventing a wheel that has been invented. >> >> 1) Do you feel this draft has an solution that is acceptable >> >> With the IPR as a WG RFC? No >> >> >> >> 2) Do you feel this draft is ready to publish? No >> >> >> >> 3) Do you know of implementations of this draft? No >> >> >> >> 4) Do you know of deployments of this draft? No >> >> If so, is this feature useful in the deploy ments. >> >> >> >> 5) Do you feel that Wide Communities is ready for >> >> Publication? >> >> From the data tracker for wide communities the draft was adopted but >> since has expired. The RPD draft is hinged on publication of wide >> communities. If wide communities has been abandoned I think that would >> impact this draft. >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-wide-bgp-communities/ >> >> My suggestion as others have stated is to not proceed with this document >> on WGLC and have further discussion if agreed to analyze how this draft >> fills a gap that exist today given the current solutions we have today with >> NMS Yang and Netconf as well as existing centralized PCE controller based >> solution for SR-TE policy push. >> >> >> Kind Regards >> >> Gyan >> >> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 8:56 AM Ou Liang <ouliang@chinatelecom.cn> wrote: >> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> >>> >>> I support the WGLC of the draft. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> >>> Liang Ou as a co-author >>> >>> >>> >>> *发件人:* Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] *代表 *Susan Hares >>> *发送时间:* 2020年7月15日 21:11 >>> >>> *收件人:* idr@ietf.org >>> *主题:* [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt (7/15 to 7/29/2020) >>> >>> >>> >>> This begins a 2 week WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd >>> >>> from 7/15 to 7/29/2020. You can obtain this draft at: >>> >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-rpd/ >>> >>> >>> >>> This draft defines a new AFI/SAFI and new atoms >>> >>> for the Wide Communities. This WG LC has been delayed >>> >>> as I waited for a resubmission of the Wide Communities draft. >>> >>> I had hoped to do these 2 WG LC in parallel. >>> >>> >>> >>> I’ve not received the Wide Communities draft, but we will >>> >>> start this WGLC to provide feedback to the authors. >>> >>> We may have to run a short follow-up to this WG LC >>> >>> If there are changes to the Wide Communities draft during >>> >>> Its WG LC. >>> >>> >>> >>> There is an IPR statement on this draft. >>> >>> >>> >>> In your responses please answer the following questions: >>> >>> >>> >>> 1) Do you feel this draft has an solution that is acceptable >>> >>> With the IPR as a WG RFC? >>> >>> >>> >>> 2) Do you feel this draft is ready to publish? >>> >>> >>> >>> 3) Do you know of implementations of this draft? >>> >>> >>> >>> 4) Do you know of deployments of this draft? >>> >>> If so, is this feature useful in the deploy ments. >>> >>> >>> >>> 5) Do you feel that Wide Communities is ready for >>> >>> Publication? >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheerily, Susan Hares >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Idr mailing list >>> Idr@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr >>> >> -- >> >> <http://www.verizon.com/> >> >> *Gyan Mishra* >> >> *Network Solutions A**rchitect * >> >> >> >> *M 301 502-134713101 Columbia Pike >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/13101+Columbia+Pike%C2%A0+Silver+Spring,+MD?entry=gmail&source=g>*Silver >> Spring, MD >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/13101+Columbia+Pike%C2%A0+Silver+Spring,+MD?entry=gmail&source=g> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Idr mailing list >> Idr@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr >> > -- <http://www.verizon.com/> *Gyan Mishra* *Network Solutions A**rchitect * *M 301 502-134713101 Columbia Pike *Silver Spring, MD
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- Re: [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt (7/1… Huaimo Chen
- Re: [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt (7/1… Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt (7/1… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt (7/1… Huaimo Chen
- Re: [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt (7/1… Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt (7/1… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt (7/1… Yangang
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- Re: [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt (7/1… Wanghaibo (Rainsword)
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- [Idr] 答复: WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt (7/1… Ou Liang
- Re: [Idr] 答复: WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt … Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Idr] 答复: WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt (7/1… Linda Dunbar
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- Re: [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt (7/1… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] 答复: WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt … Gyan Mishra
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- Re: [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt (7/1… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt (7/1… Gyan Mishra
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- Re: [Idr] [GROW] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.t… Randy Bush
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- Re: [Idr] [GROW] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.t… Gert Doering
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- Re: [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rpd-05.txt (7/1… Robert Raszuk
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