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Re: [Ietf-languages] Proposal for variant language subtags for Pe̍h-ōe-jī romanization for Minnan (nan)

Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org> Fri, 09 February 2024 01:36 UTC

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From: Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org>
To: Winston Sung <winston21.sung@gmail.com>, "ietf-languages@iana.org" <ietf-languages@iana.org>
Thread-Topic: [Ietf-languages] Proposal for variant language subtags for Pe̍h-ōe-jī romanization for Minnan (nan)
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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Proposal for variant language subtags for Pe̍h-ōe-jī romanization for Minnan (nan)
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Any subtag can be proposed with multiple Prefix fields to indicate that it is appropriate for more than one language (or other combinations of language-script, language-variant, etc.). See this, for example:

Type: variant
Subtag: baku1926
Description: Unified Turkic Latin Alphabet (Historical)
Added: 2007-04-18
Prefix: az
Prefix: ba
Prefix: crh
Prefix: kk
Prefix: krc
Prefix: ky
Prefix: sah
Prefix: tk
Prefix: tt
Prefix: uz
Comments: <lengthy, redacted>

Additional Prefix fields can also be added after the variant is initially registered. The one thing that cannot be done is to remove a Prefix field (unless all of them are removed), because that would narrow the suggested applicability of the variant.

We can include more than one Prefix field in the 'pehoeji' and/or 'tailo' proposals if that is felt to be appropriate. But if the romanizations used with those other languages are considered different — more different than, say, Chinese Pinyin and Tibetan Pinyin (see variant 'pinyin') — then they should be different subtags.

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Doug Ewell, CC, ALB | Lakewood, CO, US | ewellic.org


From: Ietf-languages <ietf-languages-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Winston Sung
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2024 22:37
To: ietf-languages@iana.org
Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Proposal for variant language subtags for Pe̍h-ōe-jī romanization for Minnan (nan)

Teochew would be included in (covered by) Minnan [nan], but this subtag is specifically for Hokkien.

This subtag should also be available for proposed language subtags (ISO 639-3) for Hokkien variants (request 2021-045) if approved.

Hakka [hak], Hainanese [proposed hnm], Fuzhou (Mindong [cdo]), Teochew Pe̍h-ūe-jī, Minbei [mnp], Pu–Xian Min [cpx] should propose different subtag (for example, phakfasu, baehoetu) if needed.

Best regards,
SUNG C. C. (Winston Sung)

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