Re: Question about pre-meeting document posting deadlines for the IESG and the community

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Fri, 15 March 2024 22:17 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>, "iesg@ietf.org" <iesg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: Question about pre-meeting document posting deadlines for the IESG and the community
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John,

> We are now seeing pull requests that alter
> substantive parts of documents posted on Github within a short
> time before IETF starts and during the window when new or
> revised I-Ds are not allowed without special circumstances and
> specific permission from ADs.

I think this is an important point.

I would be very happy if the IETF recommended an analogous similar moratorium on *merging* pull requests during the IETF blackout window.