Re: Question about pre-meeting document posting deadlines for the IESG and the community

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sun, 24 March 2024 02:41 UTC

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From: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>, ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: Question about pre-meeting document posting deadlines for the IESG and the community
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Comments: In-reply-to John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> message dated "Sat, 23 Mar 2024 00:22:03 -0400."
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John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote:
    > I think where we disagree is that I'm at least a little more
    > concerned about working groups that become too homogeneous and
    > resistant to "outsider" views and input.   Now, I think such WGs
    > are quite rare in the IETF, but I have seen a few situations
    > that I have trouble interpreting in any other way.  Ideally, I'd

Quite rare, yet worth multiple long emails over many years and a lot of hand-wringing.
Please name some names!  Don't be shy.

At the least, please tell the ADs and/or the IETF Chair.

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Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
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