Re: Question about pre-meeting document posting deadlines for the IESG and the community

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Sun, 17 March 2024 04:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: Question about pre-meeting document posting deadlines for the IESG and the community
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On 3/16/24 22:27, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:

> (1) Integration with, or generally use of, GitHub as a place to 
> conduct WG business certainly has its advantages, but it has also 
> essentially become a second datatracker and WG mailing list.  I 
> imagine (but could be wrong) that asserting control over what 
> participants are allowed to do there as a meeting approaches will be 
> difficult if not impossible.  I don't think it's possible to put that 
> back in its bag at this point.
IMO github has made it much more difficult for participants to follow a 
discussion, since they essentially have to follow it in multiple 
places.   I see advantages to github but only in late stages of a 
document's evolution, when most of the activity is "wordsmithing".
>
> (2) The diversity of opinions makes me think we should consider 
> allowing working group chairs to decide for their working groups 
> whether, and how long, an embargo should last.

I disagree.   I think it makes it even more difficult for IETF 
participants when every WG essentially has its own rules, and that's to 
IETF's detriment in general.

Keith