Re: AD Sponsorship of draft-moonesamy-recall-rev

[Stewart Bryant <[e-mail]>]

On 25/04/2019 17:21, Nico Williams wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 05:17:00PM +0100, Stewart Bryant wrote:
>> On 25/04/2019 17:04, Nico Williams wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 10:03:41AM +0100, Adrian Farrel wrote:
>>>> Nico, you over-stretch the "normality" of the process, IMHO.
>>>
>>> A bit, but the point is that if you cannot get an AD to sponsor the I-D
>>> without a WG, well, then you still have that path.
>>>
>>> Having to go through a WG is very much a possible and legitimate
>>> outcome.
>>
>> Well, that is not the only path.
>>
>> Procedurally the authors could consider initiating an appeal or even perhaps
>> a recall over the matter.
> 
> I did not know that an (all) AD's decision not to sponsor could be
> appealed.  I don't see how a recall petition over the ADs' refusal to
> sponsor could be anything other than frivolous.
> 


It is my understanding that in the IETF the will of the community 
overrules the will of the IESG. Thus, if there is community will for 
something, the IESG must either resign or concede. That is why we need 
to last call anything of significance.

Whether such a recall would be frivolous would firstly be a matter for
the community to decide in terms of gathering the required signatures, 
and then it be would be a matter for the recall committee to decide.

- Stewart