Re: AD Sponsorship of draft-moonesamy-recall-rev

[Eric Rescorla <[e-mail]>]

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 2:15 AM S Moonesamy <[e-mail]> wrote:

> As a comment about IETF process, it was pointed out to me that a
> Working Group Chair cannot author drafts within his/her working
> group. That does not seem to be a problem for other Working Group
> Chairs; some of them have been authored drafts in their working
> groups.  That can create a perception that the rule, if there is one,
> is applied in different ways to different people.


It's not quite clear what the gravamen of your complaint is here. To the
best of my knowledge, no such rule exists. Obviously, you might have
been misinformed, but I'm not sure what you're hoping for as a result.



  I am okay if the
> IAB wishes to provide guidance on a problem statement about that as
> part of the revision to IETF eligibility procedures.
>

I don't understand what you are asking for, here. As I said, to the best
of my knowledge no such rule exists, so it's not clear what IAB would
do here.


> I read draft-rescorla-istar-recall-00.  One of the conclusions from
> it is that the recall system is so unwieldy that it is undeployable
> even in the most egregious cases.  I could not figure out the
> rationale for having an accountability mechanism which, by design, is
> not intended to work.
>

This misunderstands the document, which doesn't say that the recall system
was not intended to work, but merely that it does not in fact work. One need
not look far in the IETF to find other processes and technologies which
were expected to work but do not.

-Ekr


> There is the following sentence at the end of Section 3 of the draft:
> "The Chair of the IETF may not be removed by expulsion".  That is an
> interesting proposal.
>
> Regards,
> S. Moonesamy
>
>