Re: IPv6 traffic stats

Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Wed, 12 November 2008 10:06 UTC

Return-Path: <ietf-bounces@ietf.org>
X-Original-To: ietf-archive@megatron.ietf.org
Delivered-To: ietfarch-ietf-archive@core3.amsl.com
Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E966E3A688E; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:06:38 -0800 (PST)
X-Original-To: ietf@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B623A6889 for <ietf@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:06:37 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.599
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1lJEmQ-hUaye for <ietf@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:06:36 -0800 (PST)
Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no (eikenes.alvestrand.no [158.38.152.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8715C3A688E for <ietf@ietf.org>; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:06:36 -0800 (PST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id C037839E3C8; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:05:18 +0100 (CET)
X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at eikenes.alvestrand.no
Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EEfHPifu78Bx; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:05:18 +0100 (CET)
Received: from [172.28.58.136] (unknown [195.18.164.170]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CF2D39E257; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:05:18 +0100 (CET)
Message-ID: <491AAAAB.6000209@alvestrand.no>
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:06:35 +0100
From: Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080925)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>
Subject: Re: IPv6 traffic stats
References: <08111108201165.2a71d.487911088@oregon.uoregon.edu> <20081111185711.GG1588@nsn.com> <4919ED2F.2020101@alvestrand.no> <f1110c510811111249ud4ee387m2169fb84378ec3f4@mail.gmail.com> <4919FA68.4030803@alvestrand.no> <alpine.LRH.2.00.0811120747470.11163@netcore.fi>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.00.0811120747470.11163@netcore.fi>
Cc: tytso@mit.edu, ietf@ietf.org
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"
Sender: ietf-bounces@ietf.org
Errors-To: ietf-bounces@ietf.org

Pekka Savola wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Harald Alvestrand wrote:
>> The correct number from the presentation is 0.238% - only Russia, 
>> Ukraine and France have more than 0.5% IPv6.
>>
>> Presentation available from 
>> http://rosie.ripe.net/presentations-detail/Thursday/Plenary%2014:00/index.html. 
>>
>
> Depends on what you're looking for, but if you are interested in the 
> amount of users that have any kind of IPv6 connectivity, this 
> undercounts severely because address selection rules on recent OSs 
> typically select IPv4 if their connectivity is 6to4 or Teredo.
Pekka,

can you identify the OSes that prefer IPv4 when on 6to4, and pointers to 
docs?

Steinar (the guy who did the Google experiment) has tried to dig through 
the documentation on both Vista and Linux, and has drawn a blank (Vista 
with Teredo doesn't even look up the AAAA record if it has IPv4 
connectivity, according to the documentation, so it seems that it will 
not use IPv6 to IPv6-only hosts; it will never find the address.)

                Harald

_______________________________________________
Ietf mailing list
Ietf@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf