Re: IPv10.

While I have yet to see any fleshy details, it does sound similar to my
idea which got thrown out (IPv6 targets direct from IPv4 using header
options and not tunnelling) I believe I still have a bet to collect
regarding IPv6 uptake though ;)

Peter

On Sun., 13 Nov. 2016 at 8:51 am, Brian E Carpenter <
brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:

> I believe it can all be safely ignored, but it does seem like a silly
> waste of resources that they bother to work on it at all.
>
> Regards
>    Brian
>
> On 13/11/2016 09:40, Latif LADID [IPv6-based Internet] wrote:
> > The next one to look into is the new NGI initiative of the European
> > Commission to start working on new Internet protocols, although this is
> just
> > research, after the failure of the Future Internet research program and
> GENI
> > in the US (though Openflow was funded at Stanford) so not really a threat
> > but could be used to put some sanity in researchers in quest of inventing
> > something new :-)
> >
> >
> https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/next-generation-internet-initi
> > ative
> >
> > https://twitter.com/NGI4eu
> >
> > Latif
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Latif LADID
> > [IPv6-based Internet]
> > Sent: 12 November 2016 21:27
> > To: 'Scott O. Bradner' <sob@sobco.com>; 'IETF discussion list'
> > <ietf@ietf.org>
> > Cc: ipv6@ietf.org
> > Subject: RE: IPv10.
> >
> > The IETF/3GPP endorsement agreement can be used to stop them as it
> clearly
> > states that ETSI should not be involved in IETF work but just endorse it.
> >
> > Latif
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott O. Bradner [mailto:sob@sobco.com]
> > Sent: 12 November 2016 21:06
> > To: IETF discussion list <ietf@ietf.org>
> > Cc: Latif LADID [IPv6-based Internet] <latif@ladid.lu>; ipv6@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: IPv10.
> >
> > but consistent?
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >> On Nov 12, 2016, at 3:04 PM, Brian E Carpenter
> > <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Latif,
> >>
> >> On 12/11/2016 20:17, Latif LADID [IPv6-based Internet] wrote:
> >>> Jon Postel will swizel in his grave if v10 is not assigned by IANA
> first.
> >>> Let's not confuse the market. A working group at ETSI has been formed
> >>> 6 months ago called NGP ( Next Gereation Protocols) lashing at v4 and
> >>> v6 to invent a new one.
> >>
> >> How incredibly foolish of them.
> >>
> >>   Brian
> >>
> >>> Also the ITU will jump on this one to occupy the v10 space :-)
> >>>
> >>> Latif
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E
> >>> Carpenter
> >>> Sent: 12 November 2016 02:43
> >>> To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
> >>> Cc: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@hotmail.com>; ipv6@ietf.org;
> >>> ietf@ietf.org
> >>> Subject: Re: IPv10.
> >>>
> >>> On 12/11/2016 14:15, Randy Bush wrote:
> >>>>> Right now it seems that you have got a solution proposal for a
> >>>>> problem, that is IMHO not very clearly described.
> >>>>
> >>>> how about ipv4 and ipv6 are incompatible on the wire and this has
> >>>> created a multi-decade ipv6 charlie foxtrot?
> >>>
> >>> Yes, I suggest mentioning that to Vint, Bob and a few others in 1977,
> >>> so that they can design IPv4 with extensible addresses. People in
> >>> 2016 will be grateful.
> >>>
> >>>   Brian
> >>>
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