Re: Reminder: Poll about restructuring options

Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net> Tue, 28 September 2004 16:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: Reminder: Poll about restructuring options
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> >  The poll provides no way for other, basic, important and
> >  logical opinions, such as whether both choices are
> >  inappropriate.
> >  That makes this a rather exclusionary survey.
>  In that case, you are in the "No, I do not wish to state an
>  opinion" camp for this question.

It is very unlikely that there is any language on this planet 
that would equate ""No, I do not wish to state an opinion" with 
"I wish to state an opinion but you have no provided a category 
that covers my opinion".

What is normal for surveys that wish to represent the responses 
of those who are not represented by the provided categories is 
"none of the above".  And there is no language on this planet 
that would equate "none of the above" with "No, I do not wish to 
state an opinion".

More generally, you should review John Klensin's brief comments 
on this thread.  Your response to him suggests that you did not 
understand his point.


>  Your particular reasons for not wanting to state an opinion
>  are your own, and well known to the IETF list.

Let's skip over just how remarkably inappropriate and 
unprofessional it is for the IETF Chair to make an ad hominem 
comment like this.

Let's just consider the likelihood that you have no idea what my 
reasons are.  However you appear to be certain you do, so please 
educate me and everyone else about my reasons.   Since you chose 
to make this exchange personal, let's at least deal with things 
explicitly and openly.  

It might be a refreshing example of transparency.

d/


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