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Re: privacy and IETF meetings in US

Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> Fri, 07 June 2019 19:33 UTC

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Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 12:33:23 -0700
Cc: "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com>, IETF <ietf@ietf.org>, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet=40consulintel.es@dmarc.ietf.org>
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To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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> On Jun 7, 2019, at 12:13 PM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:
> 
> Livingood, Jason <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com> wrote:
>> I do not defend this policy, but do wish to note that it is probably
>> also the case for users of social media platforms (like me) that
>> commercial entities know far more about you than the government.
> 
> I think the biggest risk is for non-users of social media platforms.
> It's hard to prove you really don't have an account, and it sounds obstructionist.

Which is why you need to have an account on Facebook or Instagram or some such, and a cron job to post once every other week a picture of your cat, or your food, or the sunset.

-- Christian Huitema

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