Re: privacy and IETF meetings in US

"Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com> Fri, 07 June 2019 18:19 UTC

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From: "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com>
To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet=40consulintel.es@dmarc.ietf.org>, IETF <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: privacy and IETF meetings in US
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Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 18:19:25 +0000
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(No hats on / personal opinion)
I believe the USG stated this would be the policy in April 2018, so what we have now is an apparent date of implementation (assuming the government is able to meet that - which is often not the case). As noted by others, there is an election next year in the US and no one can predict what the outcome may be and, regardless of outcome, whether this policy will be in force during IETF-111. So lots of unknowns in the political environment in the US, as in many other countries around the world. 

I do not defend this policy, but do wish to note that it is probably also the case for users of social media platforms (like me) that commercial entities know far more about you than the government.

Jason

On 6/7/19, 11:01 AM, "ietf on behalf of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ" <ietf-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of jordi.palet=40consulintel.es@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

    Hi,
    
    If I got it correctly, the new US regulation will force to provide information about social media accounts by those requesting a VISA. Not sure if this will apply also for the ESTA.
    
    If this is correct, and considering that we have planned IETF111, July 2021, in San Francisco, despite how much personally I like that city, should we cancel that meeting and start looking for an alternative venue?
    
    Or we don't care about IETF participants privacy rights at all and how much subjective the immigration authorities judgment of our activity in social networks may become?
    
    Regards,
    Jordi
     
     
    
    
    
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