Re: Fuzzy words [was Uppercase question for RFC2119 words]

Scott Bradner <sob@sobco.com> Tue, 29 March 2016 12:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: Fuzzy words [was Uppercase question for RFC2119 words]
From: Scott Bradner <sob@sobco.com>
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agreed


Scott

> On Mar 29, 2016, at 7:57 AM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote:
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> --On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 07:27 -0400 Scott Bradner
> <sob@sobco.com> wrote:
> 
>> fwiw - seems to me that the basic idea that MUST and must are
>> the same is wrong and will lead to  even more confusion
>> 
>> imo - any clarification should (not SHOULD - i.e. the english
>> language) say 
>> 	1/ some authors capitalize some words for
>> emphasis and clarity 
>> 	2/ there is no requirement to use
>> capitalized words
>> 2/ when capitalized words are used RFC
>> 2119 says what the capitalized words mean 
>> 	3/ non capitalized words are interpreted 
>>  using normal English 
> 
> Agreed, if your second #2 is modified to read "when capitalized
> words are used and RFC 2119 is explicitly and normatively
> referenced, RFC 2119 says what the capitalized words mean".   In
> other words, there is no universal applicability of 2119 -- if I
> write a document that says "where this document says 'MUST', it
> means you should (sic) do it if you find it convenient". that
> might well be editorially dumb, but 2119 has nothing to do with
> it, nor does it prevent such a definition.
> 
>   john
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