Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration
"Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker@verisign.com> Thu, 22 May 2008 01:02 UTC
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So? The rules of academic citation are broken. Take a look at their idiotic criteria for citing web pages. Unfortunately the folk who designed the reference manager for office 2008 made the mistake of taking them seriously. It is not possible to cite urls for articles as a result. Sent from my GoodLink Wireless Handheld (www.good.com) -----Original Message----- From: Eric Rescorla [mailto:ekr@networkresonance.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 04:06 PM Pacific Standard Time To: Melinda Shore Cc: Working Group Chairs; IAB; IETF Discussion; Julian Reschke; IAOC; RFC Editor Subject: Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration At Wed, 21 May 2008 17:52:55 -0400, Melinda Shore wrote: > > On 5/21/08 5:39 PM, "Brian E Carpenter" <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: > > Possibly not, but there is still a crusty old world of academic > > publications with traditional reference styles out there, and an ISSN > > will make it much more straightforward to cite RFCs in peer-reviewed > > publications. +1 that it's a no-brainer. > > Hi - I'm really not trying to be a contrarian, just trying to > sort through the actual issues here. I don't think I've ever seen > a reference that included an ISSN. I've also never seen one > used as a subject header (index term) in cataloging. The only > time I've personally seen them used is as *descriptive* information > in a catalog (library catalog, publisher's catalog, etc.). I'm > sure someone will be happy to dig up a counterexample but > I do think they're pretty unusual. Really, what are the odds > that someone knows the ISSN but not the title or the author or > the publisher or ... ? I agree with Melinda here. I can't remember ever seeing anything like an ISBN or an ISSN used as a citation in an academic paper. -Ekr _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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- ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Ray Pelletier
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration eburger
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Melinda Shore
- RE: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration David Harrington
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Randy Presuhn
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Pete Resnick
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Melinda Shore
- Re: [IAOC] ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Ray Pelletier
- Re: [IAOC] ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Pete Resnick
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Paul Hoffman
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Steve Crocker
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Dave Crocker
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration TS Glassey
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Melinda Shore
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Julian Reschke
- RE: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Eastlake III Donald-LDE008
- RE: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Dave Cridland
- RE: [IAOC] ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Richard Shockey
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Brian E Carpenter
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Melinda Shore
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John Levine
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Frank Ellermann
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Eric Rescorla
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Brian E Carpenter
- RE: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Ed Juskevicius
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Bill Manning
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Bill Manning
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Tom.Petch
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Melinda Shore
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Marshall Eubanks
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Melinda Shore
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Steve Crocker
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Marshall Eubanks
- RE: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Ed Juskevicius
- RE: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Marshall Eubanks
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Bill Manning
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Nevil Brownlee
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- RE: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Cullen Jennings
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Bob Braden
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Frank Ellermann
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Marshall Eubanks
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Stephane Bortzmeyer
- RE: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Marshall Eubanks
- RE: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: [IAOC] ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Marshall Eubanks
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Marshall Eubanks
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Frank Ellermann
- RE: [IAOC] ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Eastlake III Donald-LDE008
- RE: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Glen Zorn