Re: [IAOC] ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration
Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com> Fri, 23 May 2008 15:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: [IAOC] ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration
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On May 23, 2008, at 10:58 AM, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: > I would rather pay $1 to provide bigger, better cookies or tap- > dancing penguins during the plenaries.rsha I don't think $1 USD would pay for one of those bigger, better, cookies, so I guess tap-dancing penguins it is. Regards Marshall > > I see no value in doing this and in fact plenty of reasons to oppose > it. > > Where is the $1500 of value to the IETF here? I can see the value to > DOI. If the IETF were to go this route it should be expecting DOI to > be paying a cut of the additional business generated, not to hand > money over. > > From: wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of Marshall Eubanks > Sent: Thu 22/05/2008 9:10 AM > To: Henning Schulzrinne > Cc: Working Group Chairs; IAB; IETF Discussion; IAOC; Bill Manning; > John C Klensin; RFC Editor > Subject: Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration > > > On May 22, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Henning Schulzrinne wrote: > > > On a side note: If we want something URN-like that actually has > > traction outside the IETF, DOIs seem like the right approach. See http://www.doi.org/ > > Articles in our closest technical disciplines, namely those > > published by ACM and IEEE, already have DOIs, both for journal and > > conference articles. > > > > Note that > > DOI is a registered URI within the info-URI namespace (IETF RFC > 4452, the "info" URI Scheme for Information > Assets with Identifiers in Public Namespaces). Further information > is available at http://info-uri.info. > > These are not free; if we got DOI's for all RFCs through, e.g., > Bowker, it would cost > > Up to 9999 DOIs - $1500 per year > > I think it would be a good idea. A $ 1 increase in registration fees > would more than pay for it. > > Regards > Marshall > > > > This is obviously completely orthogonal to the ISSN issue. > > > > Henning > > _______________________________________________ > > IETF mailing list > > IETF@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > > _______________________________________________ > IAOC mailing list > IAOC@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iaoc _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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- Re: [IAOC] ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Ray Pelletier
- Re: [IAOC] ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Pete Resnick
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- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Steve Crocker
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- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Dave Crocker
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration TS Glassey
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Melinda Shore
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- RE: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Dave Cridland
- RE: [IAOC] ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Richard Shockey
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Brian E Carpenter
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Melinda Shore
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John Levine
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Frank Ellermann
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Eric Rescorla
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Brian E Carpenter
- RE: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Ed Juskevicius
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Bill Manning
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Bill Manning
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Tom.Petch
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Melinda Shore
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Marshall Eubanks
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Melinda Shore
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Steve Crocker
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Marshall Eubanks
- RE: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Ed Juskevicius
- RE: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Marshall Eubanks
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Bill Manning
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Nevil Brownlee
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- RE: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Cullen Jennings
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Bob Braden
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Frank Ellermann
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration John C Klensin
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Marshall Eubanks
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Stephane Bortzmeyer
- RE: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Marshall Eubanks
- RE: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: [IAOC] ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Marshall Eubanks
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Marshall Eubanks
- Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Frank Ellermann
- RE: [IAOC] ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Eastlake III Donald-LDE008
- RE: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration Glen Zorn