Re: [Trustees] ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your review and comments on a proposed Work-Around to the Pre-5378 Problem

[Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]>]

On 2009-01-11 09:52, Dave CROCKER wrote:
> 
> 
> Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> Which is why I suggest that we should support the Trustees' proposed
>> short term fix, to allow normal work to continue +/- cutting and pasting
>> some boilerplate. We do have a glitch in 5378 to mend, but let's get that
>> off the critical path.
> 
> 
> I can't begin to guess at the logic that uses Larry's somewhat bizarre
> assertion as a basis for trying to press approval of this clearly and
> substantially problematic proposal.

I was responding to JCK and Ted Ts'o.
I didn't intend to comment on Larry's remarks in any way, shape
or form. It's reasonably well established that IANAL. Please take my
comment as a direct reponse to the Subject header of this thread.

> To create a paraphrase, what part of "neither short term nor a fix" did
> you not understand?

I understand. I disagree.

> 
> The concept of "short term" never applies to infrastructure changes, and
> as Fred pointed out -- ableit again my paraphrase -- we are messing with
> something deep in the IETF's processing infrastructure.
> 
> Equally, taking something that already imposes unnecessarily broad
> impact, 

Er, is that a Last Call comment on draft-ietf-ipr-outbound-rights
and draft-ietf-ipr-3978-incoming? A bit late, if so.

> and layering onto it a hack that imposes even more impact, is
> not a fix.

Look, the IPR WG, and all those who reviewed its drafts, including
me, missed that fact that there was a transition problem that should
have been covered in those drafts. I'm sorry, I made a mistake, as
Basil Fawlty once said. We need to fix that mistake.

   Brian
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