Re: [Trustees] ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your reviewand comments on a proposed Work-Around to the Pre-5378 Problem

Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> Sun, 11 January 2009 21:21 UTC

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From: Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [Trustees] ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your reviewand comments on a proposed Work-Around to the Pre-5378 Problem
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Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu> writes:

> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 04:09:54PM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote:
>> I would agree with you for the 2-3 sentences scenario, but that's
>> missing my point.  I would fully disagree when it comes to 2-3
>> paragraphs, 2-3 pages, or entire I-D's.  I believe the latter is the
>> reality with several free software projects, including the Linux kernel.
>> 
>
> 2-3 paragraphs would probably still be fair use.  I'm not aware of any
> place in the Linux kernel where there was more than a few paragraphs
> quoted from RFC's.  There were a few projects that included full
> verbatim copies of RFC's for reference/documentation purposes,
> although most of those have been removed due to the fact that previous
> RFC permission statements were not compliant with the Open Source
> Definition, and so distributions such as Debian required that such
> full copies of the RFC had to be stripped from the source packaging.

As far as I can tell, current RFC permission statements are not
compliant with the Open Source Definition either.

/Simon

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