Re: Proposed WG and BOF Scheduling Experiment
Henk Uijterwaal <henk@ripe.net> Mon, 08 November 2010 05:24 UTC
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Subject: Re: Proposed WG and BOF Scheduling Experiment
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I think having the BOFs early in the week is a good idea but I'd modify the proposal a bit. Background: At this meeting, we have 8 BOFs. There are also 7 or 8 meetings in each of the sessions (9-11:30, 1-3, 3-4). Scheduling all 8 BOFs at the same time will maximize overlap between them but otherwise not affect the schedule. However, the overlap does not make this a good idea. Also, the lengths of the BOFs will vary, so one size fits all is not a good idea. If we schedule 4 BOFs at the time and have NO WG meetings in parallel, reduce overlap for the BOFs BUT at the same time create more conflicts for the rest of the week, as 8 WG sessions have to be put elsewhere in the schedule. This is not a good idea either. 4 BOFs with meetings in parallel works better. 4 BOFs with 4 regular meetings at the same time does not have much impact on the rest of the schedule, but there is still a fair chance of overlap. So, I'd take it a step further: Starting Monday morning, 2 of the 7 or 8 meeting slots in each session are reserved for BOFs and the other 4 or 5 for WG meetings. That way, we'll have all the BOFs done by Tuesday lunchtime, giving time to discuss the results during the week, and impact on the rest of the schedule is minimal. Henk -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.xs4all.nl/~henku P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I confirm today what I denied yesterday. Anonymous Politician.
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