Re: Proposed WG and BOF Scheduling Experiment

Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com> Tue, 09 November 2010 10:42 UTC

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I would offer we do the venture capital lightning round thing.

Schedule a *single* 2.5 hour slot for *all* BOFs.  Each BOF proposer gets 5 minutes to make their pitch and 10 minutes of discussion.  I would bet that 15 minutes of FOCUSED attention would give the IAB and IESG enough input as to (1) is there community interest, (2) is there community expertise, and (3) is the IETF the right place for the activity to occur.

Since Dave Crocker and John Klensin need to be at every BOF, this makes it easy for them to attend every one :-)


On Nov 8, 2010, at 10:26 AM, The IESG wrote:

> The IESG is seriously considering a WG and BOF scheduling experiment.  The
> goal of the experiment is to provide WG agenda sooner and also provide
> more time to craft BOF proposals.
> 
> The proposed experiment includes three parts.  First, schedule all BOFs
> for Monday afternoon.  Second, schedule WGs before we know which BOFs will
> be held.  Finally, provide an additional four weeks to deliver BOF
> proposal to ADs.
> 
> Please let us know whether you support this experiment.  Discussion is
> welcome on the mail list and the plenary on Wednesday evening.
> 
> On behalf of the IESG,
> Russ Housley
>