Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors
Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Sun, 31 May 2015 10:39 UTC
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Den 31. mai 2015 10:52, skrev Eliot Lear: > Whereas I take issue with the IESG (and IAB) making statements > that should be handled (a) through our normative processes and > document series; and (b) where there should be certain standards > across our document series, and this is one of them. Now this statement is about Internet-Drafts, not about the RFC series or any substream thereof. If we figured out who is in charge of the Internet Drafts mechanism as a whole, that body might be the right one to make pronouncements for the whole whatever-it-is. (I don't think we've ever called the Internet drafts a document series...) I don't think we've figured out that yet. And it's a separate topic. > > On 5/31/15 3:38 AM, John C Klensin wrote: >> >> --On Saturday, May 30, 2015 18:19 -0500 Spencer Dawkins at IETF >> <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> More broadly than just to John ... >> And my note was a little bit of an over-specific response to >> Eliot and David. To be clear, modulo the quibble about putting >> one toe into the Acknowledgments swamp, rather than either >> keeping it out or jumping in all the way, I think the IESG's >> handling of this is, AFAICT, just right and shows sensitivity to >> all of the right issues. I am also reasonably confident that, >> if the IESG does not assert authority I don't think it has or >> should have, the other streams and the RSE can (and likely will) >> take care of themselves. I didn't see any signs of such >> assertions before in this situation; your note provides >> reassurance that I didn't just miss them :-) >> >> john >> >> >> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVauTVAAoJEGsBVt6Jonw0gfQP/0vqwq3XY+HxjLWvwnam07nE KGXo1awuN+I3LWkVElP0BbqVtI/HpfJEpFL3CtY9nOGAaTYMkodrLwcz3AdDJosY jVInEF2CO83YZrMxyLWS6IOuIjXzuwK2d9MI45u+gSCx338JoH3gKRhxAYZHBwiF fuZBG5mxNqv7aZQwhSeMaIs4NEgUnrG05eBQ9TPsmS1/B74N9xydX/Iw8k3wstMs b3THbSyN/HicGkjilLTqC7+tylZrlPOCiclcPOKv6Ye6RcrC+wDM3zNZBsJVkwuZ w7ly8+L8/s7YPwhDVtwSSlCpDQzHWsGy3h2GcjNLwOCgPfHfly0IUgUQAqw0m3ZH K6ljjzXinP59eoHdypWNXOh1ZvjiWCxg3DlnbgmcZws8oigdJO6uSUiMOCdy0JZY oCSPAaCxL4rXhmAhJlJgUFmk3qWMruOiuw5Lb+l85P/7NqWUQSfGLsuleYyYYHKP +r2+BSpLgvCSH5i7KNEg+CE2ZfFKYJXCu6DPe441uwU/oR9T0vtTjdqwjqfJaby4 ZbgXadP4I6hg/cX2DJiQO6hxZCp8jszO2LE6tuRJSia0+xx/rvWyYaO+RgftiFHZ BosINavzZcmEegwq8iE+M1FjujilkB69qkXA48gT/7ljS3KS1ceRc/8hB0NAsnmd HzPgrN+wBGRUqw9IhENW =UqE5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors joel jaeggli
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors John C Klensin
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors Eliot Lear
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors Benoit Claise
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors Carsten Bormann
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors John C Klensin
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors Benoit Claise
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors John C Klensin
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors Harald Alvestrand
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors David Farmer
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors John C Klensin
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors John C Klensin
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors Eliot Lear
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors Eliot Lear
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors Harald Alvestrand
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors Larry Kreeger (kreeger)
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors Eliot Lear
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors John C Klensin
- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors John C Klensin
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- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors Melinda Shore
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- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors John C Klensin
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- Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors Spencer Dawkins at IETF
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