Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors
Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Tue, 02 June 2015 23:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors
From: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
To: Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com>
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On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com> wrote: > On Jun 2, 2015, at 5:57 PM, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: >> Considering that most of these situations appear to be mistakes, why >> should correcting this mistake be more humiliating than correcting the >> zillions of other mistakes fixed from one version of an I-D to the >> next? > > How can one possibly add an author accidentally? I've done it -- I was chatting with someone -- let's call him Bob. We were discussing something over dinner, and came up with a great solution to a problem. We spent many hours discussing how to implement it, etc. I said "We should *so* write this up as a draft. What do you think?". Bob says "Yes, that's a great idea". So, I go back to my hotel room, open an editor, bang out the document and post it. Bob says "Whoa! What the hell?". Apparently when I said "We should write this..." he thought I was meaning the "royal we" (or, me and someone else), when I was actually meaning "Warren and Bob". Anyway, after I apologized to him and explained that it was a misunderstanding he decided he really wanted to be an author, and ended up writing much of the rest of the document. Sure, I could / should have sent him the -00 and asked if he approved, but, well, I wanted to submit before the next set of meetings, I was overly excited (we've met, yes? :-)), etc. W -- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf
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