Re: Large market player

Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> Wed, 07 May 2014 22:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: Large market player
From: Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>
To: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
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Those players can be considered as large community servers as the
mail services are free, so that market is indirect market. IETF is also
community server, but can it alone solve that problem compared to those
players. The power is with who serves the larger community or with who
owns the best service/practice.

AB

On Wednesday, May 7, 2014, S Moonesamy wrote:

> Hi Dave,
> At 14:53 05-05-2014, Dave Crocker wrote:
>
>> If a large market player declared that all mail to and from them were
>> required to be written in a specific language, would that we a matter
>> for the IETF to deal with?  I think not.  (For all I know, some ISP out
>> there already behaves that way.)
>>
>> Actions like that are at the level of "politics of use" rather than
>> "technology of use".  While each of us might have opinions for any such
>> policy, it's not the IETF's job or competence to get enmeshed in such
>> politics.
>>
>
> A large market player decided that all mail to them should comply with a
> technical specification.  That specification has not been published or
> recommended by the IETF.  According to (unverified) estimates the companies
> with the most email users are Gmail, outlook.com and Yahoo Mail.
>
> One of the early comments on the various threads about the technical
> specification was whether the IAB can do anything about the technical
> specification.  There were comments about whether the IETF can do anything
> about the technical specification.  Should the IETF do anything if a large
> market player decides that all mail sent to it should comply with a
> technical specification?  There are different opinions about that.  People
> without influence [1] usually turn to the (relevant) government or an
> organization which they consider as influential when a large market player
> does something they dislike.
>
> Regards,
> S. Moonesamy
>
> 1. People with influence talk to the king. :-)
>