Re: [Int-area] WG Adoption Call: IP Fragmentation Considered Fragile

"Black, David" <David.Black@dell.com> Thu, 26 July 2018 14:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Int-area] WG Adoption Call: IP Fragmentation Considered Fragile
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> I still think it would be useful for this doc to describe how tunnels interact
> with fragmentation (per draft-ietf-intarea-tunnels), which seems to be
> something I’ve noted several times before.

I believe that Ron's already promised to add text on this ...

Thanks, --David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Int-area [mailto:int-area-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Joe Touch
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 10:15 PM
> To: Wassim Haddad
> Cc: internet-area@ietf.org; intarea-chairs@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Int-area] WG Adoption Call: IP Fragmentation Considered
> Fragile
> 
> Hi, all,
> 
> I still think it would be useful for this doc to describe how tunnels interact
> with fragmentation (per draft-ietf-intarea-tunnels), which seems to be
> something I’ve noted several times before.
> 
> I’m also still not thrilled with the title I’d be happier with “IP fragmentation
> still not supported per requirements”, and I’d have to see where this goes
> with final recommendations.
> 
> But I agree *some* statement is worthwhile here. My primary concern is
> that if we’re not careful, endorsing the status quo will only ensure nothing
> changes.
> 
> So I sincerely hope that some of the strongest recommendations here are
> that both direct IP devices and tunnel ingress/egress devices need to do a
> better job of supporting fragmentation, and that protocol/device designers
> SHOULD avoid mechanisms that are not compatible with fragmentation (e.g.,
> NAT or DPI without doing reassembly first).
> 
> Joe
> 
> > On Jul 24, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Wassim Haddad
> <wassim.haddad@ericsson.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > We would like to start a WG adoption call for draft-bonica-intarea-frag-
> fragile (“IP Fragmentation Considered Fragile”).
> >
> > https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-bonica-intarea-frag-fragile-03.txt
> >
> >
> > Please indicate your preferences on the mailling list. The deadline is August
> 10th.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Juan & Wassim
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