Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt
Bill Sommerfeld <sommerfeld@sun.com> Fri, 11 February 2005 14:36 UTC
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From: Bill Sommerfeld <sommerfeld@sun.com>
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Subject: Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt
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On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 03:48, Simon Josefsson wrote: > > Would it be sufficient to require that folks wishing to redistribute > > non-interoperable derivative works document their changes in the form > > of either a note to a relevant WG or area list or an internet-draft > > submission? This at least makes them stick a toe into the IETF process.. > > That may fail the "Desert Island" test, which some organization appear > to be concerned with, compare > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Free_Software_Guidelines>. It > may be helpful to review <http://www.debian.org/social_contract> to > understand the rationale behind such requirements. I read these pages. Maybe I'm just dense but I don't see how the desert island test follows from either the social contract or the DFSG. Moreover, the open source initiative says it uses http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php, which is essentially the same as the DFSG, to evaluate licenses, and it certified several licenses with notification provisions, including: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/nasa1.3.php and http://www.opensource.org/licenses/rpl.php To top it all off, items #2 and #3 of the debian social contract themselves appear to violate the spirit of the desert island test, as do provisions 3(b) and 3(c) of the GPL (when redistributing binaries, allowing source to be distributed later -- if an isolated person is physically incapable of notifying the author of changes, they are also physically incapable of requesting the sources from the author). - Bill _______________________________________________ Ipr-wg mailing list Ipr-wg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipr-wg
- draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Scott Bradner
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Bill Sommerfeld
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Scott Bradner
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Simon Josefsson
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Bill Sommerfeld
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt todd glassey
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Simon Josefsson
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Simon Josefsson
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Robin Cover
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Bill Sommerfeld
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt todd glassey
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Don Armstrong
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Bill Sommerfeld
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Don Armstrong
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Nathanael Nerode
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Nathanael Nerode
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Simon Josefsson
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Scott Bradner
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Simon Josefsson
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Scott Bradner
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Simon Josefsson
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Scott Bradner
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Matthew Garrett
- Coupling RFC copying conditions with the existenc… Simon Josefsson
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Bill Sommerfeld
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Matthew Garrett
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Bill Sommerfeld
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Matthew Garrett
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Bill Sommerfeld
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Matthew Garrett
- RE: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Lawrence Rosen
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Bill Sommerfeld
- Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt Don Armstrong
- Re: Coupling RFC copying conditions with the exis… Nathanael Nerode
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