Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt

Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> Sat, 12 February 2005 00:09 UTC

Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA14817 for <ipr-wg-web-archive@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:09:34 -0500 (EST)
Received: from megatron.ietf.org ([132.151.6.71]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CzlBA-0003iV-QM for ipr-wg-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:30:33 -0500
Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Czkiu-0002iz-Ug; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:01:20 -0500
Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1CzkdN-00016p-3v for ipr-wg@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:55:37 -0500
Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA13870 for <ipr-wg@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:55:34 -0500 (EST)
Received: from tangerine.ucr.edu ([138.23.225.70]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Czkxg-0003SO-G4 for ipr-wg@ietf.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:16:37 -0500
Received: from archimedes.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.79]) by tangerine.ucr.edu with SMTP for ipr-wg@ietf.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:55:31 -0800
Received: (nullmailer pid 8947 invoked by uid 1000); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 23:55:30 -0000
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:55:30 -0800
From: Don Armstrong <don@debian.org>
To: ipr-wg@ietf.org
Message-ID: <20050211235530.GS7321@archimedes.ucr.edu>
Mail-Followup-To: ipr-wg@ietf.org
References: <20050211010923.7EAB8212E3A@newdev.harvard.edu> <1108088376.11303.564.camel@thunk> <ilubrar8oso.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> <1108131600.47454.91.camel@unknown.hamachi.org> <20050211194422.GN7321@archimedes.ucr.edu> <1108165637.1643.502.camel@thunk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <1108165637.1643.502.camel@thunk>
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i
X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/)
X-Scan-Signature: 8b431ad66d60be2d47c7bfeb879db82c
Subject: Re: draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00.txt
X-BeenThere: ipr-wg@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
List-Id: IPR-WG <ipr-wg.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipr-wg>, <mailto:ipr-wg-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Post: <mailto:ipr-wg@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ipr-wg-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipr-wg>, <mailto:ipr-wg-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0736468746=="
Sender: ipr-wg-bounces@ietf.org
Errors-To: ipr-wg-bounces@ietf.org
X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/)
X-Scan-Signature: d0bdc596f8dd1c226c458f0b4df27a88

[Kindly refrain from Cc:'ing me, as I am subscribed to the list.]

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Bill Sommerfeld wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 14:44, Don Armstrong wrote: 
> > The basic premise of the desert island test is that a license should
> > not force an individual on a desert island to be in violation of the
> > license merely because they cannot communicate with the world at
> > large. See [2] and the thread that follows for much more information.
> 
> We spend enough time worrying about actual problems that worrying
> about hypotheticals like this is a waste of time.

This is merely a specific test that explains why such a clause is
necessarily non-free, and won't be suitable for inclusion in Debian.

Whether or not members of the ipr wg decide to address these concerns
are not is an issue to be determined by the ipr wg. Either way, the
issues remain, and are very real. [I would not have spent my time
attempting to explain them to you all if I felt they were not.]


Don Armstrong

-- 
It has always been Debian's philosophy in the past to stick to what
makes sense, regardless of what crack the rest of the universe is
smoking.
 -- Andrew Suffield in 20030403211305.GD29698@doc.ic.ac.uk

http://www.donarmstrong.com              http://rzlab.ucr.edu
_______________________________________________
Ipr-wg mailing list
Ipr-wg@ietf.org
https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipr-wg