Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue #15: Should at least on key indicator be mandatory
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From: Anthony Nadalin <tonynad@microsoft.com>
To: Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>, "odonoghue@isoc.org" <odonoghue@isoc.org>
Thread-Topic: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue #15: Should at least on key indicator be mandatory
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Subject: Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue #15: Should at least on key indicator be mandatory
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1. Yes - Use cases where key information is exchanged by means other than the JWS and JWE headers ARE important. -----Original Message----- From: jose-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:jose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mike Jones Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 8:25 AM To: odonoghue@isoc.org Cc: jose@ietf.org Subject: Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue #15: Should at least on key indicator be mandatory 1. Yes - Use cases where key information is exchanged by means other than the JWS and JWE headers ARE important. -----Original Message----- From: Roland Hedberg [mailto:roland.hedberg@adm.umu.se] Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 1:33 AM To: odonoghue@isoc.org Cc: jose@ietf.org; Mike Jones Subject: Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue #15: Should at least on key indicator be mandatory I support 1 as defined by Mike. 12 apr 2013 kl. 07:25 skrev Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>: > 1. Yes - Use cases where key information is exchanged by means other than the JWS and JWE headers ARE important -- Roland From: Mike Jones Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:25 PM To: 'odonoghue@isoc.org'; jose@ietf.org Subject: RE: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue #15: Should at least on key indicator be mandatory Reading this question, I believe that there's a possibility for the question to be misinterpreted, since the sense of the question in the subject is opposite of the sense of the question in the body. I believe that the intent of 1 and 2 were as follows: 1. Yes - Use cases where key information is exchanged by means other than the JWS and JWE headers ARE important. 2. No - Use cases where key information is exchanged by means other than the JWS and JWE headers ARE NOT important. Maybe people could reply with 1 and 2 as above, so that their answers to the question of whether these use cases are important are not are unambiguous. -- Mike From: jose-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:jose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Karen O'Donoghue Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 5:00 PM To: jose@ietf.org Subject: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue #15: Should at least on key indicator be mandatory Issue #15 http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/jose/trac/ticket/15. suggests requiring that a key indicator, such as a "kid" field, be required in all JWS and JWE headers. Are use cases where key information is exchanged by means other than the JWS or JWE headers important? Which of these best describes your preferences on this issue? 1. Yes. 2. No. 0. I need more information to decide. Your reply is requested by Friday, April 19th (or earlier). _______________________________________________ jose mailing list jose@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jose
- [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue #15… Karen O'Donoghue
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Dick Hardt
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Manger, James H
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Mike Jones
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Axel.Nennker
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Roland Hedberg
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… hideki nara
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Mike Jones
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Richard Barnes
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Richard Barnes
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Mike Jones
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… nov matake
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Anthony Nadalin
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Matias Woloski
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Breno de Medeiros
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Richard Barnes
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Mike Jones
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Edmund Jay
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Richard Barnes
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… charles.marais@orange.com
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Sascha Preibisch
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… John Bradley
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Javier Rojas Blum
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Vladimir Dzhuvinov / NimbusDS
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Matt Miller
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Russ Housley
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Richard Barnes
- Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue… Salvatore D'Agostino