Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue #15: Should at least on key indicator be mandatory

nov matake <matake@gmail.com> Mon, 15 April 2013 16:03 UTC

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From: nov matake <matake@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 01:03:39 +0900
To: Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>
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Subject: Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue #15: Should at least on key indicator be mandatory
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On Apr 16, 2013, at 12:24 AM, Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com> wrote:

> 1.  Yes - Use cases where key information is exchanged by means other than the JWS and JWE headers ARE important.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roland Hedberg [mailto:roland.hedberg@adm.umu.se] 
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 1:33 AM
> To: odonoghue@isoc.org
> Cc: jose@ietf.org; Mike Jones
> Subject: Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue #15: Should at least on key indicator be mandatory
> 
> I support 1 as defined by Mike.
> 
> 12 apr 2013 kl. 07:25 skrev Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>:
> 
>> 1.  Yes - Use cases where key information is exchanged by means other than the JWS and JWE headers ARE important
> 
> -- Roland
> 
> From: Mike Jones 
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:25 PM
> To: 'odonoghue@isoc.org'; jose@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue #15: Should at least on key indicator be mandatory
> 
> Reading this question, I believe that there's a possibility for the question to be misinterpreted, since the sense of the question in the subject is opposite of the sense of the question in the body.  I believe that the intent of 1 and 2 were as follows:
> 
> 1.  Yes - Use cases where key information is exchanged by means other than the JWS and JWE headers ARE important.
> 2.  No - Use cases where key information is exchanged by means other than the JWS and JWE headers ARE NOT important.
> 
> Maybe people could reply with 1 and 2 as above, so that their answers to the question of whether these use cases are important are not are unambiguous.
> 
>                                                            -- Mike
> 
> From: jose-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:jose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Karen O'Donoghue
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 5:00 PM
> To: jose@ietf.org
> Subject: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue #15: Should at least on key indicator be mandatory
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> Issue #15 http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/jose/trac/ticket/15. suggests requiring that a key indicator, such as a "kid" field, be required in all JWS and JWE headers. Are use cases where key information is exchanged by means other than the JWS or JWE headers important? 
> Which of these best describes your preferences on this issue?
> 1.  Yes.
> 2.   No. 
> 0.  I need more information to decide.
> 
> Your reply is requested by Friday, April 19th (or earlier).
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