Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep-map
Gregory Mirsky <gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com> Mon, 03 December 2012 20:46 UTC
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To: Rolf Winter <Rolf.Winter@neclab.eu>, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>, "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep-map
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Hi Rolf, I've been thinking about that requirement for some time and am not convinced that such requirement, support multiple MIP per LSP/PW on given LSR/PE, exists. AFAIK, in Ethernet OAM only support of single MIP per MD/MEG Level is required and support of multiple MIPs is optional. True, multiple MIPs of different MD/MEG Levels might be enabled on a node but in MPLS-TP we use SPME to model MD/MEG Levels and thus such MIPs are on different LSPs. As for p2mp case, I'm not sure how dat-plane loopback can be used on uni-directional construct. Regards, Greg -----Original Message----- From: Rolf Winter [mailto:Rolf.Winter@neclab.eu] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:15 PM To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls@ietf.org Cc: mpls-ads@tools.ietf.org; mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep-map@tools.ietf.org Subject: RE: working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep-map Hi Greg, But that's the whole point of the document. There can be multiple in- and out-MIPs per LSP plus in the P2MP case there can be multiple out-MIPs per node. It cannot be based local configuration. There has to be information inside the OAM frame to address the respective MIP. Section 4 of the document has a (I believe) pretty good example of this. Best, Rolf NEC Europe Limited | Registered Office: NEC House, 1 Victoria Road, London W3 6BL | Registered in England 2832014 > -----Original Message----- > From: Gregory Mirsky [mailto:gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com] > Sent: Montag, 3. Dezember 2012 19:20 > To: Rolf Winter; Loa Andersson; mpls@ietf.org > Cc: mpls-ads@tools.ietf.org; mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf- > mpls-tp-mip-mep-map@tools.ietf.org > Subject: RE: working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep-map > > Hi Rolf, > Do you envision that multiple MIPs, both in- and out-, required to be > supported on a given LSP/PW? I think that only single MIP required > per LSP/PW on an LSR/PE node. If that is the case, then there might be > no apparent need to explicitly address in- and out- MIP as such > distinction becomes part of local configuration. > > Regards, > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Rolf Winter > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 5:42 AM > To: Loa Andersson; mpls@ietf.org > Cc: mpls-ads@tools.ietf.org; mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf- > mpls-tp-mip-mep-map@tools.ietf.org > Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip- > mep-map > > Loa, > > These have been mentioned: > > 1. CV between a MEP and a MIP > 2. traceroute over an MPLS-TP LSP and/or an MPLS-TP PW containing MIPs > 3. data-plane loopback configuration at a MIP 4. diagnostic tests > > Best, > > Rolf > > NEC Europe Limited | Registered Office: NEC House, 1 Victoria Road, > London W3 6BL | Registered in England 2832014 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu] > > Sent: Freitag, 30. November 2012 11:41 > > To: mpls@ietf.org > > Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; Martin Vigoureux; > > draft-ietf-mpls-tp- mip-mep-map@tools.ietf.org; > > mpls-ads@tools.ietf.org > > Subject: Re: working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep- > map > > > > Authors, > > > > Can you plese give me an indication of which OAM functions the > > separation of in and out MIPs are intended for? > > > > /Loa > > > > > > > > On 2012-11-14 16:16, Loa Andersson wrote: > > > > > > Working Group, > > > > > > This is to start a 2 week working group last call on > > > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep-map. > > > > > > Please send your comments to the mpls working group mailing list > > > (mpls@ietf.org). > > > > > > Please send both technical comments, and if you are happy with the > > > document as is also indications of support. > > > > > > This working group last call will end on November 28. > > > > > > /Loa > > > for the wg co-chairs > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Loa Andersson email: > loa.andersson@ericsson.com > > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > > +46 767 72 92 13 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls
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- Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep… Gregory Mirsky
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- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Shahram Davari
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- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Gregory Mirsky
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Gregory Mirsky
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… hideki.endo.es
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- Re: [mpls] working group last call ondraft-ietf-m… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Rolf Winter
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- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Rolf Winter
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