Re: [mpls] working group last call ondraft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep-map
"Shahram Davari" <davari@broadcom.com> Tue, 04 December 2012 14:54 UTC
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From: Shahram Davari <davari@broadcom.com>
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Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call ondraft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep-map
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That is the whole point, that TLVs are not hardware friendly. But at least ACH TLV is at a fixed location. Regards, Shahram On Dec 4, 2012, at 2:27 AM, "Stewart Bryant" <stbryant@cisco.com> wrote: > No one liked those (for h/w reasons), so we never used them for any first generation OAM applications. If you look at the registry you will see that none have been defined. > > Stewart > > On 04/12/2012 09:31, Shahram Davari wrote: >> How about the G-ACH TLV that immediately follows ACH. >> >> Regards, >> Shahram >> >> >> On Dec 4, 2012, at 12:46 AM, "Rolf Winter" <Rolf.Winter@neclab.eu> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> quite some time ago we asked whether we could mandate TLV ordering (at least mandating one out of N TLVs to be the first in the OAM PDU) in order to allow efficient implementation in HW. This actually would be a good thing in this case. The responses we got weren't quite positive (which is actually quite a positive description of the responses we got) but I don't see that the GACh RFC is actually disallowing it. Still we would need to go back and make changes to a few RFCs. That was also something people weren't really happy about. Again, these were some of the constraints we worked with which led to what is on the table right now. We weren't blind to HW considerations, vice versa as you can see when you look at the appendix that was removed in the latest version of the document. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Rolf >>> >>> NEC Europe Limited | Registered Office: NEC House, 1 Victoria Road, London W3 6BL | Registered in England 2832014 >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:pagarwal@broadcom.com] >>>> Sent: Dienstag, 4. Dezember 2012 06:44 >>>> To: hideki.endo.es@hitachi.com >>>> Cc: Shahram Davari; Rolf Winter; mpls@ietf.org >>>> Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call ondraft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip- >>>> mep-map >>>> >>>> Hi hideki, >>>> >>>> Is the determination that the mip identifier is present in the same >>>> location always in the pdu or is it variable (based on oam msg type)? >>>> >>>> Thx >>>> >>>> Puneet >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 5:24 PM, "hideki.endo.es@hitachi.com" >>>> <hideki.endo.es@hitachi.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep-map >> _______________________________________________ >> mpls mailing list >> mpls@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > > -- > For corporate legal information go to: > > http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >
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- Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep… Manuel.Paul
- Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep… Gregory Mirsky
- Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep… Gregory Mirsky
- Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep… Gregory Mirsky
- Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep… Yoshinori Koike
- Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep… Pablo Frank
- Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep… hideki.endo.es
- [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… t.petch
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… S. Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Pablo Frank
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Gregory Mirsky
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Gregory Mirsky
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… hideki.endo.es
- [mpls] Extended - Re: working group last call on … Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last call ondraft-ietf-m… hideki.endo.es
- Re: [mpls] working group last call ondraft-ietf-m… Puneet Agarwal
- Re: [mpls] working group last call ondraft-ietf-m… S. Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last call ondraft-ietf-m… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] working group last call ondraft-ietf-m… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] working group last callondraft-ietf-mp… hideki.endo.es
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… S. Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last call ondraft-ietf-m… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last callondraft-ietf-mp… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last call ondraft-ietf-m… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [mpls] working group last call ondraft-ietf-m… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] working group lastcallondraft-ietf-mpl… hideki.endo.es
- Re: [mpls] working group last call ondraft-ietf-m… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… S. Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group lastcallondraft-ietf-mpl… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group lastcallondraft-ietf-mpl… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Gregory Mirsky
- Re: [mpls] working group lastcallondraft-ietf-mpl… hideki.endo.es
- Re: [mpls] working grouplastcallondraft-ietf-mpls… hideki.endo.es
- Re: [mpls] working group lastcallondraft-ietf-mpl… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Gregory Mirsky
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Manuel.Paul
- Re: [mpls] working grouplastcallondraft-ietf-mpls… hideki.endo.es
- Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-… Rolf Winter
- [mpls] Working Group Last Call - closed. Re: Exte… Loa Andersson