Re: [mpls] working group last call ondraft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep-map

"Shahram Davari" <davari@broadcom.com> Tue, 04 December 2012 14:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call ondraft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep-map
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That is the whole point, that TLVs are not hardware friendly. But at least ACH TLV is at a fixed location.

Regards,
Shahram


On Dec 4, 2012, at 2:27 AM, "Stewart Bryant" <stbryant@cisco.com> wrote:

> No one liked those (for h/w reasons), so we never used them for any first generation OAM applications. If you look at the registry you will see that none have been defined.
> 
> Stewart
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> On 04/12/2012 09:31, Shahram Davari wrote:
>> How about the G-ACH TLV that immediately follows ACH.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Shahram
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 4, 2012, at 12:46 AM, "Rolf Winter" <Rolf.Winter@neclab.eu> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> quite some time ago we asked whether we could mandate TLV ordering (at least mandating one out of N TLVs to be the first in the OAM PDU) in order to allow efficient implementation in HW. This actually would be a good thing in this case. The responses we got weren't quite positive (which is actually quite a positive description of the responses we got) but I don't see that the GACh RFC is actually disallowing it. Still we would need to go back and make changes to a few RFCs. That was also something people weren't really happy about. Again, these were some of the constraints we worked with which led to what is on the table right now. We weren't blind to HW considerations, vice versa as you can see when you look at the appendix that was removed in the latest version of the document.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Rolf
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:pagarwal@broadcom.com]
>>>> Sent: Dienstag, 4. Dezember 2012 06:44
>>>> To: hideki.endo.es@hitachi.com
>>>> Cc: Shahram Davari; Rolf Winter; mpls@ietf.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call ondraft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-
>>>> mep-map
>>>> 
>>>> Hi hideki,
>>>> 
>>>> Is the determination that the mip identifier is present in the same
>>>> location  always in the pdu or is it variable (based on oam msg type)?
>>>> 
>>>> Thx
>>>> 
>>>> Puneet
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 5:24 PM, "hideki.endo.es@hitachi.com"
>>>> <hideki.endo.es@hitachi.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mip-mep-map
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