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Re: [Mtgvenue] Comments on draft-baker-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-02

Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 02 November 2016 11:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] Comments on draft-baker-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-02
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> On Nov 1, 2016, at 3:03 PM, Laura Nugent <lnugent@amsl.com> wrote:
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> There is no question that requiring a headquarters hotel that is willing and able to offer guest rooms to accommodate 1/3 of our anticipated attendance results in the elimination of a number of cities as well as otherwise suitable venues within cities.  
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> I understood that the benefit of requiring this number of guest rooms at the headquarters hotel was primarily related to the desire to provide a large number of attendees with the IETF network, which is only available in the headquarters hotel.

That is part of it. But there is also benefit, a huge one, in human networking. The difference between having scheduled remote meetings using tools such a MeetEcho and an in-person meeting is unscheduled meetings - two or more people can have a meal together or talk in the hallway on a topic of their choice at will. This possibility is maximized if they are physically co-located. When we are housed in a number of smaller hotels, this is still possible, of course, but it is not as accessible.

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