Re: [Mtgvenue] Comments on draft-baker-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-02

[Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]>]

On 07/11/2016 08:42, Dave Crocker wrote:
> On 11/6/2016 11:21 AM, Yoav Nir wrote:
>> I think that by now the network available in average hotels is sufficiently non-horrible that we can live with the same kind of network as everyone else.
> 
> 
> This is a basic point.  And a specific assessment.  I think I've seen 
> some disagreement.

Here's more disagreement. IMHO, some level of problems occur in almost
any hotel almost any time. Things like broken splash pages*, limited
addresses per room, broken DNS*, bizarre filters, inadequate capacity
at busy hours*, and of course complete absence of IPv6*. Not to mention
paying extra for Internet access, still prevalent in many countries.

One of the nice things about showing up at the IETF hotel is seeing
a smooth, efficient dual stack service on the ietf-hotel SSID. But it's
more than nice: it makes one's personal efficiency much greater, given
the density of email and of people using *.ietf.org in a small area.

* all of which I have experienced in the last 3 days at the Copthorne
Hotel in Wellington, NZ.

   Brian

> 
> It would be helpful to get some discussion that focuses both on the 
> facts of the assessment and the willingness of the community to live 
> with existing venue Internet infrastructure, even if that winds up 
> sometimes being problematic.
> 
> d/
>