Re: [netmod] IETF91 NETMOD agenda ?

Randy Presuhn <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com> Tue, 04 November 2014 23:00 UTC

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From: Randy Presuhn <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com>
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Hi -

>From: Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>
>Sent: Nov 4, 2014 2:29 PM
>To: Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com>, "Thomas D. Nadeau" <tnadeau@lucidvision.com>
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>Subject: Re: [netmod] IETF91 NETMOD agenda ?
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>Here's the list of drafts that have normative or unclassified references 
>to YANG:
...
>That could be a lot of updates...
>I believe we should focus on the YANG models that don't have an existing WG.
...

>From the peanut gallery...

Though I won't be there, I'd suggest an even more restrictive criterion
for allocating time:  spend time only on those aspects of models where
there is serious disagreement (even after consulting a Yang doctor)
about how to model something or where the modelers have come to believe
YANG is somehow deficient.  If there aren't in-depth modeling / language
issues requiring face-to-face discussion, don't waste meeting time
on the document.

Randy