Re: [Ntp] NTPv5 draft

Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com> Tue, 08 December 2020 09:50 UTC

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From: Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ntp] NTPv5 draft
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On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 04:38:43PM +0000, Salz, Rich wrote:
> My view is that it is no longer acceptable to design a protocol for deployment on the open Internet that has no authentication or message integrity and that people who disagree are out of consensus.

The NTPv5 draft does supports authentication. It is exactly the same
as in NTPv4. The message format is extensible. Multiple authentication
mechanisms can be supported. If NTS is found to be insecure or
something better comes along, it can be used in NTPv5. No need to
specify a new NTP protocol.

To me it sounds like some people here think that's a bad thing and
want NTPv5 to have NTS baked in or add some artificial restrictions to
make unauthenticated messages syntactically invalid. That makes no
sense to me.

If you propose something, there should be a technical explanation
provided.

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Miroslav Lichvar