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From: Doug Arnold <doug.arnold@meinberg-usa.com>
To: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>, Dieter Sibold <dsibold.ietf@gmail.com>
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Some of the niche applications for ntp that we are enabling by separating the algorithms and protocol are the ones that won't want security.  I don't have a problem with security that is turned on by default.  And no security is recommended only for unusual cases such timing in a cyber physical system not attached to the internet.

Doug

On 12/7/20, 10:11 AM, "ntp on behalf of Salz, Rich" <ntp-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

    >    Web browsers still default to HTTP and how long does HTTPS exist?

    They are starting to move to "HTTPS first"  But yes, it took a long time.  There are other reasons, not particularly relevant to NTP tho.

    >    NTS just become a thing. Forcing people to NTS by removing
        unauthenticated NTP from NTPv5 won't work.

    We're not forcing anyone.  Folks who want unauthenticated NTP can stay on NTPv4.


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