[Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: NTPv5 draft

Ulrich Windl <Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> Tue, 01 December 2020 08:52 UTC

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From: Ulrich Windl <Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de>
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Subject: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: NTPv5 draft
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>>> "Salz, Rich" <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> schrieb am 01.12.2020 um
00:44
in Nachricht <DCB6C97C-3CC3-4A75-B633-2A35E17573C3@akamai.com>:
>>     I think that there is a possibility of a non safety‑critical closed 
> network application of ntp that does not need security.
> 
> I am strongly opposed to this for three and a half reasons:
> 1. The use‑case is not known, so we should assume that NTPv4 is good
enough.
> 1.5 If this is not the case, those who need this need to make the argument 
> to this WG.
> 2. Security should no longer be optional for IETF protocols.
> 3. "Closed network" is increasingly unlikely; we're seeing more things "in 
> the cloud" for example.

"more" isn't all: I know some "devices" that actually consist of several
computers in one cabinet taling to each other via a network you cannot see or
reach from the outside. That could be a candidate where no extra security is
needed. Also see my earlier message on the subject.

Regards,
Ulrich

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