Re: [Ntp] NTPv5 draft

Hal Murray <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> Tue, 01 December 2020 18:36 UTC

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doug.arnold@meinberg-usa.com said:
> Here is another use case where secure NTP might not be needed.  All the
> traffic in the application, including ntp is protected by IPsec or MACsec.
> Yes that add some delays, but for some applications that is okay. 

How does IPsec work?  Does setting up the working keys depend on time like the 
certificate checking for TLS does?

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