Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision

Wesley Eddy <> Thu, 14 November 2013 17:19 UTC

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On 11/14/2013 3:10 AM, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote:
> Hi Harald,
> thanks for your email. I will touch base with the TSV ADs and with Wes
> (former TSV AD) and get a status update on this piece of work. It will
> take a few days, though (when Martin will be back, as Spencer also
> mentioned in this thread). We will keep the group posted.

I was mostly guilty for advocating that this be moved over, so
no need to bother Martin in order to explain the history.

It was creating some confusion between multiple WGs at the IETF
meeting, particularly with regard to what RMCAT was doing, what
RTCWEB was doing, and how DiffServ actually works.  So we had a
quick discussion about moving it to TSVWG between the available
set of:
- authors
- RTCWEB chairs
- TSVWG chairs

At the time that it was moved over to TSVWG, I had sent the
TSVWG a description of why:

I agree that this obviously should have also been discussed in
the RTCWEB WG.  If all interested people weren't aware of the
move, then that is bad, and should be corrected now.

As for the current status, the document does not yet address
core issues that have been pointed out.  See, for instance:

People interested should work on this in TSVWG.  There does not
seem to be any reason for RTCWEB to be gated on it, as it has zero
impact on interoperability or the protocol.  Having a normative
reference to it is not correct and is easy to fix.

Wes Eddy
MTI Systems