Re: [secdir] sec-dir review of draft-ietf-payload-rtp-opus-08
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Subject: Re: [secdir] sec-dir review of draft-ietf-payload-rtp-opus-08
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Hi Roni and Derek, This thread sort of tailed off in February. Has the discussion been resolved? Thanks! Ben. On 19 Feb 2015, at 11:07, Derek Atkins wrote: > Roni, > > I'm not an RTP guy. To me "SRTP" is a general class of "Secure RTP" > protocols. So let's work on that as my starting point: implementations > SHOULD protect their RTP stream. > > Based on that, how about a re-wording here? Instead of just saying "MAY > use SRTP", how about something like "SHOULD use one of the possible RTP > Security methods (See RFC7201, RFC7202)"? (Obviously this can be worded > better). > > -derek > > Roni Even <roni.even@mail01.huawei.com> writes: > >> Hi, >> The reason for the may is discussed in RFC7201 and RFC 7202, it can be >> a SHOULD and these RFCs exaplain when it is not required to use SRTP. >> Maybe add a reference to these RFCs in the security section when >> saying talking about good reasons for not using SRTP >> >> Roni Even >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: Jean-Marc Valin [jvalin@mozilla.com] on behalf of Jean-Marc >> Valin [jmvalin@mozilla.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 10:23 PM >> To: Derek Atkins; iesg@ietf.org; secdir@ietf.org >> Cc: payload-chairs@tools.ietf.org; koenvos74@gmail.com; jspittka@gmail.com >> Subject: Re: sec-dir review of draft-ietf-payload-rtp-opus-08 >> >> Hi Derek, >> >> There was no particular reason for the MAY, the text was merely copied >> from other RTP payload RFC. I totally agree with making it a SHOULD. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jean-Marc >> >> On 17/02/15 02:54 PM, Derek Atkins wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's >>> ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the >>> IESG. These comments were written with the intent of improving >>> security requirements and considerations in IETF drafts. Comments >>> not addressed in last call may be included in AD reviews during the >>> IESG review. Document editors and WG chairs should treat these >>> comments just like any other last call comments. >>> >>> Summary: >>> >>> Ready to publish with a question: I question why the use of SRTP is a >>> MAY and not a SHOULD (as detailed in the Security Considerations >>> section). Considering PERPASS I believe this should be a SHOULD; >>> someone should have a very good reason why they are NOT using SRTP. >>> >>> Details: >>> >>> This document defines the Real-time Transport Protocol (RTP) payload >>> format for packetization of Opus encoded speech and audio data >>> necessary to integrate the codec in the most compatible way. >>> Further, it describes media type registrations for the RTP payload >>> format. >>> >>> I have no other comments on this document. >>> >>> -derek >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> secdir mailing list >> secdir@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/secdir >> wiki: http://tools.ietf.org/area/sec/trac/wiki/SecDirReview >> >> > > -- > Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 > derek@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com > Computer and Internet Security Consultant
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Ben Campbell
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Derek Atkins
- Re: [secdir] sec-dir review of draft-ietf-payload… Ben Campbell
- Re: [secdir] sec-dir review of draft-ietf-payload… Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [secdir] sec-dir review of draft-ietf-payload… Ben Campbell
- Re: [secdir] sec-dir review of draft-ietf-payload… Derek Atkins
- Re: [secdir] sec-dir review of draft-ietf-payload… Ben Campbell
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Ben Campbell
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Derek Atkins
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Ben Campbell
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Robert Sparks
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Colin Perkins
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Roni Even
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Roni Even
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Derek Atkins
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Ben Campbell
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Colin Perkins
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Colin Perkins
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Derek Atkins
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Colin Perkins
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Derek Atkins
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Colin Perkins
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Ben Campbell
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Colin Perkins
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Colin Perkins
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Roni Even
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Derek Atkins
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Derek Atkins
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Ben Campbell
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Ben Campbell
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Derek Atkins
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Ben Campbell
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Ben Campbell
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Ben Campbell
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Ben Campbell
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Derek Atkins
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Colin Perkins
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [secdir] [payload] sec-dir review of draft-ie… Magnus Westerlund
- [secdir] sec-dir review of draft-ietf-payload-rtp… Derek Atkins
- Re: [secdir] sec-dir review of draft-ietf-payload… Roni Even
- Re: [secdir] sec-dir review of draft-ietf-payload… Derek Atkins