Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge
Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org> Wed, 19 July 2023 14:50 UTC
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From: Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org>
To: Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com>
Cc: Xavier De Foy <xavier.defoy=40interdigital.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, 정하 홍 <jhong@etri.re.kr>, yonggeun.hong@gmail.com, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>, Internet Research Steering Group <irsg@irtf.org>, ietf@kovatsch.net, t2trg@irtf.org
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Subject: Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge
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Thank you - appreciate such a rapid turn-around! Colin On 19 Jul 2023, at 15:49, Marie-Jose Montpetit wrote: > I plan to be done by tomorrow. > > mjm > > Marie-José Montpetit, Ing. Ph.D. > marie@mjmontpetit.com > > > > From: Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org> <csp@csperkins.org> > Reply: Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org> <csp@csperkins.org> > Date: July 19, 2023 at 10:47:10 AM > To: Xavier De Foy <xavier.defoy=40interdigital.com@dmarc.ietf.org> > <xavier.defoy=40interdigital.com@dmarc.ietf.org> > Cc: Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com> > <marie@mjmontpetit.com>, Carsten > Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> <cabo@tzi.org>, yonggeun.hong@gmail.com > <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com> <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com>, t2trg@irtf.org > <t2trg@irtf.org> <t2trg@irtf.org>, Internet Research Steering Group > <irsg@irtf.org> <irsg@irtf.org>, 정하 홍 <jhong@etri.re.kr> > <jhong@etri.re.kr>, > ietf@kovatsch.net <ietf@kovatsch.net> <ietf@kovatsch.net> > Subject: Re: [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge > > Thanks, Xavier. Look forward to Marie-Jose's comments on the changes > and > the resulting submission. > > Cheers, > Colin > > > On 18 Jul 2023, at 16:36, Xavier De Foy wrote: > > Hi Marie-Jose, thank you again for your review. Sorry for the delayed > response. > > > > We will upload a new draft revision when the I-D submission tool > reopens. > > > > In the meantime, here is a pdf including our responses to the > comments, and > a diff showing the related updates to the text. The diff also > addresses you > point about Mobile Edge X (in section 4.1). > > > > Please let us know if you have any further comments. > > > > Best Regards, > > Xavier, on behalf of the co-authors > > > > *From:* Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 23, 2023 4:07 PM > *To:* Xavier De Foy <Xavier.DeFoy@InterDigital.com>; Carsten Bormann < > cabo@tzi.org> > *Cc:* yonggeun.hong@gmail.com; ietf@kovatsch.net; Internet Research > Steering Group <irsg@irtf.org>; Kutscher, Dirk <ietf@dkutscher.net>; > Eve > Schooler <eve.schooler@gmail.com>; t2trg@irtf.org; 정하 홍 > <jhong@etri.re.kr> > *Subject:* RE: [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge > > > > > > It was a pleasure to do it as the topic is of great interest to me :) > > > > Marie-José Montpetit, Ing. Ph.D. > > marie@mjmontpetit.com > > > > > > > From: Xavier De Foy <xavier.defoy@interdigital.com> > <xavier.defoy@interdigital.com> > Reply: Xavier De Foy <xavier.defoy@interdigital.com> > <xavier.defoy@interdigital.com> > Date: May 23, 2023 at 3:51:54 PM > To: Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com> > <marie@mjmontpetit.com>, > Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> <cabo@tzi.org> > Cc: yonggeun.hong@gmail.com <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com> > <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com>, ietf@kovatsch.net <ietf@kovatsch.net> > <ietf@kovatsch.net>, Internet Research Steering Group <irsg@irtf.org> > <irsg@irtf.org>, Kutscher, Dirk <ietf@dkutscher.net> > <ietf@dkutscher.net>, > Eve Schooler <eve.schooler@gmail.com> <eve.schooler@gmail.com>, > t2trg@irtf.org <t2trg@irtf.org> <t2trg@irtf.org>, 정하 홍 > <jhong@etri.re.kr> > <jhong@etri.re.kr> > Subject: RE: [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge > > > > Hi Marie-José, > > > > Thank you for sharing this thorough review, we (co-authors) will > prepare > an update to address your comments and will get back to you. And we > will > also take your comment on Mobile Edge X into account. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Xavier. > > > > *From:* Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 23, 2023 3:44 PM > *To:* Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> > *Cc:* yonggeun.hong@gmail.com; ietf@kovatsch.net; Internet Research > Steering Group <irsg@irtf.org>; Kutscher, Dirk <ietf@dkutscher.net>; > Eve > Schooler <eve.schooler@gmail.com>; t2trg@irtf.org; 정하 홍 > <jhong@etri.re.kr>; > Xavier De Foy <Xavier.DeFoy@InterDigital.com> > *Subject:* Re: [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge > > > > > > I just realized that Mobile EdgeX that is mentioned in the draft was > acquired by Google. So should be updated. > > > > mjm > > > > Marie-José Montpetit, Ing. Ph.D. > > marie@mjmontpetit.com > > > > > > > From: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> <cabo@tzi.org> > Reply: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> <cabo@tzi.org> > Date: May 22, 2023 at 3:16:30 AM > To: Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com> > <marie@mjmontpetit.com> > Cc: 정하 홍 <jhong@etri.re.kr> <jhong@etri.re.kr>, > yonggeun.hong@gmail.com > <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com> <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com>, Xavier De Foy > <xavier.defoy@interdigital.com> <xavier.defoy@interdigital.com>, > ietf@kovatsch.net <ietf@kovatsch.net> <ietf@kovatsch.net>, Eve > Schooler > <eve.schooler@gmail.com> <eve.schooler@gmail.com>, Dirk Kutscher > <ietf@dkutscher.net> <ietf@dkutscher.net>, Internet Research Steering > Group > <irsg@irtf.org> <irsg@irtf.org>, t2trg@irtf.org <t2trg@irtf.org> > <t2trg@irtf.org> > Subject: Re: [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge > > > > Hi Marie-José, > > On 2023-05-19, at 18:41, Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com> > wrote: >> >> Sorry for the delay. Thanks for your efforts on this as IoT edge is >> very > current. I commented directly on the pdf - attached. > > Thank you for the detailed review, which I still have to digest (just > returned from vacation). > >> My overall evaluation is that while everything in the draft is valid >> the > document needs a little bit of updating. IoT is exploding and some of > the > use cases have evolved since you started the draft. And AIoT/AI is now > a > main driver. Finally, while digital twinning is briefly mentioned it > should > be expanded is now also inherently part of the IoT edge. > > <hats off> > > I agree that both AI and DT should be mentioned, but I think these > very > dynamic fields would also make great subjects for more detailed > follow-on > documents to this more general overview. > So I wouldn’t recommend delaying the overview while we collect > substantial > new information about them. > > Grüße, Carsten > > [image: Banner] > > [image: Banner] > <https://www.interdigital.com/white_papers/state-of-5g-report-enabling-the-boundless-generation?utm_source=email&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=banner&utm_id=5g&utm_term=5g> > > State of 5G Report: Enabling The Boundless Generation > <https://www.interdigital.com/white_papers/state-of-5g-report-enabling-the-boundless-generation?utm_source=email&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=banner&utm_id=5g&utm_term=5g> > > This e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity > to > which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, > confidential and/or otherwise protected from disclosure to anyone > other > than its intended recipient. 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- [T2TRG] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Xavier De Foy
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Colin Perkins
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Jungha Hong
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Colin Perkins
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Xavier De Foy
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Colin Perkins
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Colin Perkins
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Xavier De Foy
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Colin Perkins
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Xavier De Foy
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Colin Perkins