Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge

Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com> Wed, 19 July 2023 14:49 UTC

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I plan to be done by tomorrow.

mjm

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Date: July 19, 2023 at 10:47:10 AM
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Thanks, Xavier. Look forward to Marie-Jose's comments on the changes and
the resulting submission.

Cheers,
Colin


On 18 Jul 2023, at 16:36, Xavier De Foy wrote:

Hi Marie-Jose, thank you again for your review. Sorry for the delayed
response.



We will upload a new draft revision when the I-D submission tool reopens.



In the meantime, here is a pdf including our responses to the comments, and
a diff showing the related updates to the text. The diff also addresses you
point about Mobile Edge X (in section 4.1).



Please let us know if you have any further comments.



Best Regards,

Xavier, on behalf of the co-authors



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It was a pleasure to do it as the topic is of great interest to me :)



Marie-José Montpetit, Ing. Ph.D.

marie@mjmontpetit.com






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Hi Marie-José,



  Thank you for sharing this thorough review, we (co-authors) will prepare
an update to address your comments and will get back to you. And we will
also take your comment on Mobile Edge X into account.



  Best Regards,



Xavier.



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I just realized that Mobile EdgeX that is mentioned in the draft was
acquired by Google. So should be updated.



mjm



Marie-José Montpetit, Ing. Ph.D.

marie@mjmontpetit.com






From: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> <cabo@tzi.org>
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Subject:  Re: [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge



Hi Marie-José,

On 2023-05-19, at 18:41, Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry for the delay. Thanks for your efforts on this as IoT edge is very
current. I commented directly on the pdf - attached.

Thank you for the detailed review, which I still have to digest (just
returned from vacation).

> My overall evaluation is that while everything in the draft is valid the
document needs a little bit of updating. IoT is exploding and some of the
use cases have evolved since you started the draft. And AIoT/AI is now a
main driver. Finally, while digital twinning is briefly mentioned it should
be expanded is now also inherently part of the IoT edge.

<hats off>

I agree that both AI and DT should be mentioned, but I think these very
dynamic fields would also make great subjects for more detailed follow-on
documents to this more general overview.
So I wouldn’t recommend delaying the overview while we collect substantial
new information about them.

Grüße, Carsten

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