Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge
Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org> Wed, 19 July 2023 14:47 UTC
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From: Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org>
To: Xavier De Foy <Xavier.DeFoy=40InterDigital.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Thanks, Xavier. Look forward to Marie-Jose's comments on the changes and the resulting submission. Cheers, Colin On 18 Jul 2023, at 16:36, Xavier De Foy wrote: > Hi Marie-Jose, thank you again for your review. Sorry for the delayed > response. > > We will upload a new draft revision when the I-D submission tool > reopens. > > In the meantime, here is a pdf including our responses to the > comments, and a diff showing the related updates to the text. The diff > also addresses you point about Mobile Edge X (in section 4.1). > > Please let us know if you have any further comments. > > Best Regards, > Xavier, on behalf of the co-authors > > From: Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 4:07 PM > To: Xavier De Foy <Xavier.DeFoy@InterDigital.com>; Carsten Bormann > <cabo@tzi.org> > Cc: yonggeun.hong@gmail.com; ietf@kovatsch.net; Internet Research > Steering Group <irsg@irtf.org>; Kutscher, Dirk <ietf@dkutscher.net>; > Eve Schooler <eve.schooler@gmail.com>; t2trg@irtf.org; 정하 홍 > <jhong@etri.re.kr> > Subject: RE: [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge > > It was a pleasure to do it as the topic is of great interest to me :) > Marie-José Montpetit, Ing. > Ph.D.marie@mjmontpetit.com<mailto:Ph.D.marie@mjmontpetit.com> From: > Xavier De Foy > <xavier.defoy@interdigital.com<mailto:xavier.defoy@interdigital.com>> > Reply: Xavier De Foy > <xavier.defoy@interdigital.com<mailto:xavier.defoy@interdigital.com>> > Date: May 23, 2023 at 3:51:54 PMTo: Marie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <https://us.report.cybergraph.mimecast.com/alert-details/?dep=BOInNegOPGJDrPzHCrIXPw%3D%3DS501tYYq5KNtx4UuCzEUhsPx4mZDM4%2Fg1HsZEEDrVBdFJP%2BHbnoJqpVvj2TaQSraYADjI5J8Rv0LxiRh9aa8WxfT6YsxP7bmBnPwAg29Vyi17eZrNMuIZHmSe7Pu8AB4T%2BAi6Q7lOhIvrnWocQxnrYc%2FW%2FMoobsVMAwwELymo1zC5TOskEJ6BHg5dbz6sVmw12uYCGMzWLO%2FQXzVB7mxOu0%2BWxalcMxCaRNLFs%2FpC8vDci%2B4l%2BCvcEgg8%2F7epB730I4V6Bc%2BFWAwtToflyr19zUuTCUqaLYKpbTM0OMZ%2BMXytFf%2F0uy%2BpPyo9GtQQUvs%2B6iwF1hoV5FNyUrNGG7yYKTB7OwAKDiJbnrmpwsUHfnKecdwwb92yQInuxVbT4iA9zECbXGu93Gi5RgRCt9M7MC4GPSeoVZc3q0OXmje7ODE4qxdV68ov8QYvRXAGUU0RG5o3OVPSeOnO9%2BlYO5GNIKZp%2FqFJq7U5VFrH6R3xoHU6PQUZHZCxRZmAjX5Uj9bBwN3rReYbm5vnBJxcRtmcfjaocW2qARV7YwhbGvcea7X3lw2VOuzUdDJYnkU07HyIwkjuwyaAW8P%2BacD%2FyXtzeL4KJ2sBiUmO3phg0os4NfQJbB2a69w%2Fm1d9O3FAdrdsXklDuK6UKyErXQWAZwdSRr4l35AX02q%2BSX9kRdjPeYBtuRgtnhnZCp7fZtlZfX5c%2BWBeT6RqO08Ua%2FQwiOurSWSk8%2Baev9%2FjoBFRW2w8Rg%3D> > It was a pleasure to do it as the topic is of great interest to me :) > > Marie-José Montpetit, Ing. Ph.D. > marie@mjmontpetit.com<mailto:marie@mjmontpetit.com> > > > > From: Xavier De Foy > <xavier.defoy@interdigital.com><mailto:xavier.defoy@interdigital.com> > Reply: Xavier De Foy > <xavier.defoy@interdigital.com><mailto:xavier.defoy@interdigital.com> > Date: May 23, 2023 at 3:51:54 PM > To: Marie-Jose Montpetit > <marie@mjmontpetit.com><mailto:marie@mjmontpetit.com> , Carsten > Bormann <cabo@tzi.org><mailto:cabo@tzi.org> > Cc: yonggeun.hong@gmail.com<mailto:yonggeun.hong@gmail.com> > <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com><mailto:yonggeun.hong@gmail.com> , > ietf@kovatsch.net<mailto:ietf@kovatsch.net> > <ietf@kovatsch.net><mailto:ietf@kovatsch.net> , Internet Research > Steering Group <irsg@irtf.org><mailto:irsg@irtf.org> , Kutscher, Dirk > <ietf@dkutscher.net><mailto:ietf@dkutscher.net> , Eve Schooler > <eve.schooler@gmail.com><mailto:eve.schooler@gmail.com> , > t2trg@irtf.org<mailto:t2trg@irtf.org> > <t2trg@irtf.org><mailto:t2trg@irtf.org> , 정하 홍 > <jhong@etri.re.kr><mailto:jhong@etri.re.kr> > Subject: RE: [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge > > > Hi Marie-José, > > Thank you for sharing this thorough review, we (co-authors) will > prepare an update to address your comments and will get back to you. > And we will also take your comment on Mobile Edge X into account. > > Best Regards, > > Xavier. > > From: Marie-Jose Montpetit > <marie@mjmontpetit.com<mailto:marie@mjmontpetit.com>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 3:44 PM > To: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org<mailto:cabo@tzi.org>> > Cc: yonggeun.hong@gmail.com<mailto:yonggeun.hong@gmail.com> ; > ietf@kovatsch.net<mailto:ietf@kovatsch.net> ; Internet Research > Steering Group <irsg@irtf.org<mailto:irsg@irtf.org>> ; Kutscher, Dirk > <ietf@dkutscher.net<mailto:ietf@dkutscher.net>> ; Eve Schooler > <eve.schooler@gmail.com<mailto:eve.schooler@gmail.com>> ; > t2trg@irtf.org<mailto:t2trg@irtf.org> ; 정하 홍 > <jhong@etri.re.kr<mailto:jhong@etri.re.kr>> ; Xavier De Foy > <Xavier.DeFoy@InterDigital.com<mailto:Xavier.DeFoy@InterDigital.com>> > Subject: Re: [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge > > > I just realized that Mobile EdgeX that is mentioned in the draft was > acquired by Google. So should be updated. > > mjm > > Marie-José Montpetit, Ing. Ph.D. > marie@mjmontpetit.com<mailto:marie@mjmontpetit.com> > > > > From: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org><mailto:cabo@tzi.org> > Reply: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org><mailto:cabo@tzi.org> > Date: May 22, 2023 at 3:16:30 AM > To: Marie-Jose Montpetit > <marie@mjmontpetit.com><mailto:marie@mjmontpetit.com> > Cc: 정하 홍 <jhong@etri.re.kr><mailto:jhong@etri.re.kr> , > yonggeun.hong@gmail.com<mailto:yonggeun.hong@gmail.com> > <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com><mailto:yonggeun.hong@gmail.com> , Xavier De > Foy > <xavier.defoy@interdigital.com><mailto:xavier.defoy@interdigital.com> > , ietf@kovatsch.net<mailto:ietf@kovatsch.net> > <ietf@kovatsch.net><mailto:ietf@kovatsch.net> , Eve Schooler > <eve.schooler@gmail.com><mailto:eve.schooler@gmail.com> , Dirk > Kutscher <ietf@dkutscher.net><mailto:ietf@dkutscher.net> , Internet > Research Steering Group <irsg@irtf.org><mailto:irsg@irtf.org> , > t2trg@irtf.org<mailto:t2trg@irtf.org> > <t2trg@irtf.org><mailto:t2trg@irtf.org> > Subject: Re: [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge > > Hi Marie-José, > > On 2023-05-19, at 18:41, Marie-Jose Montpetit > <marie@mjmontpetit.com<mailto:marie@mjmontpetit.com>> wrote: >> >> Sorry for the delay. Thanks for your efforts on this as IoT edge is >> very current. I commented directly on the pdf - attached. > > Thank you for the detailed review, which I still have to digest (just > returned from vacation). > >> My overall evaluation is that while everything in the draft is valid >> the document needs a little bit of updating. IoT is exploding and >> some of the use cases have evolved since you started the draft. And >> AIoT/AI is now a main driver. Finally, while digital twinning is >> briefly mentioned it should be expanded is now also inherently part >> of the IoT edge. > > <hats off> > > I agree that both AI and DT should be mentioned, but I think these > very dynamic fields would also make great subjects for more detailed > follow-on documents to this more general overview. > So I wouldn’t recommend delaying the overview while we collect > substantial new information about them. > > Grüße, Carsten > [Banner] > > <https://www.interdigital.com/white_papers/state-of-5g-report-enabling-the-boundless-generation?utm_source=email&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=banner&utm_id=5g&utm_term=5g> > > State of 5G Report: Enabling The Boundless > Generation<https://www.interdigital.com/white_papers/state-of-5g-report-enabling-the-boundless-generation?utm_source=email&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=banner&utm_id=5g&utm_term=5g> > This e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity > to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is > privileged, confidential and/or otherwise protected from disclosure to > anyone other than its intended recipient. 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- [T2TRG] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Xavier De Foy
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Colin Perkins
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Jungha Hong
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Colin Perkins
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Xavier De Foy
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Colin Perkins
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Colin Perkins
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Xavier De Foy
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Colin Perkins
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Xavier De Foy
- Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot… Colin Perkins