Re: [T2TRG] [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge

Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com> Thu, 20 July 2023 10:57 UTC

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Woke up early to do this :)

I am happy with the changes. A nit: Eve is not at Intel anymore so maybe
you want to put another affiliation?

mjm

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Subject:  RE: [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge

Hi Marie-Jose, thank you again for your review. Sorry for the delayed
response.



We will upload a new draft revision when the I-D submission tool reopens.



In the meantime, here is a pdf including our responses to the comments, and
a diff showing the related updates to the text. The diff also addresses you
point about Mobile Edge X (in section 4.1).



Please let us know if you have any further comments.



Best Regards,

Xavier, on behalf of the co-authors



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It was a pleasure to do it as the topic is of great interest to me :)
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It was a pleasure to do it as the topic is of great interest to me :)



Marie-José Montpetit, Ing. Ph.D.

marie@mjmontpetit.com






From: Xavier De Foy <xavier.defoy@interdigital.com>
<xavier.defoy@interdigital.com>
Reply: Xavier De Foy <xavier.defoy@interdigital.com>
<xavier.defoy@interdigital.com>
Date: May 23, 2023 at 3:51:54 PM
To: Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com> <marie@mjmontpetit.com>,
Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> <cabo@tzi.org>
Cc: yonggeun.hong@gmail.com <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com>
<yonggeun.hong@gmail.com>, ietf@kovatsch.net <ietf@kovatsch.net>
<ietf@kovatsch.net>, Internet Research Steering Group <irsg@irtf.org>
<irsg@irtf.org>, Kutscher, Dirk <ietf@dkutscher.net> <ietf@dkutscher.net>,
Eve Schooler <eve.schooler@gmail.com> <eve.schooler@gmail.com>,
t2trg@irtf.org <t2trg@irtf.org> <t2trg@irtf.org>, 정하 홍 <jhong@etri.re.kr>
<jhong@etri.re.kr>
Subject:  RE: [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge



Hi Marie-José,



  Thank you for sharing this thorough review, we (co-authors) will prepare
an update to address your comments and will get back to you. And we will
also take your comment on Mobile Edge X into account.



  Best Regards,



Xavier.



*From:* Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 23, 2023 3:44 PM
*To:* Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>
*Cc:* yonggeun.hong@gmail.com; ietf@kovatsch.net; Internet Research
Steering Group <irsg@irtf.org>; Kutscher, Dirk <ietf@dkutscher.net>; Eve
Schooler <eve.schooler@gmail.com>; t2trg@irtf.org; 정하 홍 <jhong@etri.re.kr>;
Xavier De Foy <Xavier.DeFoy@InterDigital.com>
*Subject:* Re: [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge





I just realized that Mobile EdgeX that is mentioned in the draft was
acquired by Google. So should be updated.



mjm



Marie-José Montpetit, Ing. Ph.D.

marie@mjmontpetit.com






From: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> <cabo@tzi.org>
Reply: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> <cabo@tzi.org>
Date: May 22, 2023 at 3:16:30 AM
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Subject:  Re: [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge



Hi Marie-José,

On 2023-05-19, at 18:41, Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com>
wrote:
>
> Sorry for the delay. Thanks for your efforts on this as IoT edge is very
current. I commented directly on the pdf - attached.

Thank you for the detailed review, which I still have to digest (just
returned from vacation).

> My overall evaluation is that while everything in the draft is valid the
document needs a little bit of updating. IoT is exploding and some of the
use cases have evolved since you started the draft. And AIoT/AI is now a
main driver. Finally, while digital twinning is briefly mentioned it should
be expanded is now also inherently part of the IoT edge.

<hats off>

I agree that both AI and DT should be mentioned, but I think these very
dynamic fields would also make great subjects for more detailed follow-on
documents to this more general overview.
So I wouldn’t recommend delaying the overview while we collect substantial
new information about them.

Grüße, Carsten

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