Re: [Terminology] TERM & NISTIR 8366

Lloyd W <lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk> Wed, 05 May 2021 03:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Terminology] TERM & NISTIR 8366
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> On 5 May 2021, at 11:49, Dan York <york@isoc.org> wrote:
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> But I guess to me this then goes back to what Rich Salz asked earlier about not formally abandoning this TERM working group unless/until the reference to the NIST document is added to the RFC Style Guide and any additional statements are issued by the IESG and other stream editors

How can one formally abandon a working group that was never formally adopted in the first place? other than by closing this mailing list?

Are these additional statements of loyalty to the cause that are being sought?

L.

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Lloyd Wood
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