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Re: [v6ops] AWS ipv6-only features

Clark Gaylord <cgaylord@vt.edu> Thu, 25 November 2021 20:52 UTC

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From: Clark Gaylord <cgaylord@vt.edu>
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 15:52:31 -0500
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] AWS ipv6-only features
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I'll summarize "getting IPv6 private addressing right" here:

Use global addressing.

There I fixed it for you :-)

On Thu, Nov 25, 2021, 15:49 Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2021, 07:41 Clark Gaylord, <cgaylord@vt.edu> wrote:
>
>> Yeah AWS hold their cards close and don't seem to engage the community,
>> but they do have decent IPv6 coverage across the services. Notwithstanding
>> that the whole VPC concept has the whiff of ancient days about it; tonight
>> we're gonna network like it's 1999!
>>
>> EC2 as part of the address is a great idea. I am so stealing that (can't
>> believe I haven't thought of it.)
>>
>
> It's a terrible idea. The "Unique" in ULA is on purpose.
>
> Getting IPv6 private addressing right
> https://blog.apnic.net/2020/05/20/getting-ipv6-private-addressing-right/
>
>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 25, 2021, 15:09 Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2021, 23:51 Ca By, <cb.list6@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Fyi, aws has gone beyond perfunctory ipv6 support and has released a
>>>> series of enhancements, with a focus on ipv6-only scenarios, including
>>>> nat64 / dns64
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2021/11/aws-nat64-dns64-communication-ipv6-ipv4-services/
>>>>
>>>> AWS has lapped Google and Azure in advanced network features, which is
>>>> really surprising given the early muscle Google developed at IPv6 launch
>>>> and a stronger need to differentiate …
>>>>
>>>
>>> AWS failed to do ULAs properly. 'ec2' could be a random global ID, but
>>> unlikely when their service is "EC2".
>>>
>>> Matters more here because they're exposing that to all of their tenants.
>>> I think GUAs would have been better for these internal all tenant services.
>>>
>>> I've never seen AWS participate here in 20 years, unlike G and M.
>>>
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