Re: [v6ops] AWS ipv6-only features

Seriously, it's a nice paper. Thanks for working on it and the
contribution.

On Thu, Nov 25, 2021, 15:54 Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Fri, 26 Nov 2021, 07:52 Clark Gaylord, <cgaylord@vt.edu> wrote:
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>> I'll summarize "getting IPv6 private addressing right" here:
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>> Use global addressing.
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>> There I fixed it for you :-)
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> Since I wrote that, no, that is a very wrong summary.
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>> On Thu, Nov 25, 2021, 15:49 Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Fri, 26 Nov 2021, 07:41 Clark Gaylord, <cgaylord@vt.edu> wrote:
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>>>> Yeah AWS hold their cards close and don't seem to engage the community,
>>>> but they do have decent IPv6 coverage across the services. Notwithstanding
>>>> that the whole VPC concept has the whiff of ancient days about it; tonight
>>>> we're gonna network like it's 1999!
>>>>
>>>> EC2 as part of the address is a great idea. I am so stealing that
>>>> (can't believe I haven't thought of it.)
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>>> It's a terrible idea. The "Unique" in ULA is on purpose.
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>>> Getting IPv6 private addressing right
>>> https://blog.apnic.net/2020/05/20/getting-ipv6-private-addressing-right/
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>>>> On Thu, Nov 25, 2021, 15:09 Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2021, 23:51 Ca By, <cb.list6@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> Fyi, aws has gone beyond perfunctory ipv6 support and has released a
>>>>>> series of enhancements, with a focus on ipv6-only scenarios, including
>>>>>> nat64 / dns64
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2021/11/aws-nat64-dns64-communication-ipv6-ipv4-services/
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>>>>>> AWS has lapped Google and Azure in advanced network features, which
>>>>>> is really surprising given the early muscle Google developed at IPv6 launch
>>>>>> and a stronger need to differentiate …
>>>>>>
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>>>>> AWS failed to do ULAs properly. 'ec2' could be a random global ID, but
>>>>> unlikely when their service is "EC2".
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>>>>> Matters more here because they're exposing that to all of their
>>>>> tenants. I think GUAs would have been better for these internal all tenant
>>>>> services.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never seen AWS participate here in 20 years, unlike G and M.
>>>>>
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