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Re: [v6ops] AWS ipv6-only features

Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> Thu, 25 November 2021 20:54 UTC

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From: Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 07:53:50 +1100
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To: Clark Gaylord <cgaylord@vt.edu>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] AWS ipv6-only features
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2021, 07:52 Clark Gaylord, <cgaylord@vt.edu> wrote:

> I'll summarize "getting IPv6 private addressing right" here:
>
> Use global addressing.
>
> There I fixed it for you :-)
>


Since I wrote that, no, that is a very wrong summary.


> On Thu, Nov 25, 2021, 15:49 Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 26 Nov 2021, 07:41 Clark Gaylord, <cgaylord@vt.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah AWS hold their cards close and don't seem to engage the community,
>>> but they do have decent IPv6 coverage across the services. Notwithstanding
>>> that the whole VPC concept has the whiff of ancient days about it; tonight
>>> we're gonna network like it's 1999!
>>>
>>> EC2 as part of the address is a great idea. I am so stealing that (can't
>>> believe I haven't thought of it.)
>>>
>>
>> It's a terrible idea. The "Unique" in ULA is on purpose.
>>
>> Getting IPv6 private addressing right
>> https://blog.apnic.net/2020/05/20/getting-ipv6-private-addressing-right/
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 25, 2021, 15:09 Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2021, 23:51 Ca By, <cb.list6@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Fyi, aws has gone beyond perfunctory ipv6 support and has released a
>>>>> series of enhancements, with a focus on ipv6-only scenarios, including
>>>>> nat64 / dns64
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2021/11/aws-nat64-dns64-communication-ipv6-ipv4-services/
>>>>>
>>>>> AWS has lapped Google and Azure in advanced network features, which is
>>>>> really surprising given the early muscle Google developed at IPv6 launch
>>>>> and a stronger need to differentiate …
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> AWS failed to do ULAs properly. 'ec2' could be a random global ID, but
>>>> unlikely when their service is "EC2".
>>>>
>>>> Matters more here because they're exposing that to all of their
>>>> tenants. I think GUAs would have been better for these internal all tenant
>>>> services.
>>>>
>>>> I've never seen AWS participate here in 20 years, unlike G and M.
>>>>
>>>>
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