Re: [v6ops] AWS ipv6-only features

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 25 November 2021 21:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] AWS ipv6-only features
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On 26-Nov-21 09:49, Mark Smith wrote:
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> On Fri, 26 Nov 2021, 07:41 Clark Gaylord, <cgaylord@vt.edu <mailto:cgaylord@vt.edu>> wrote:
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>     Yeah AWS hold their cards close and don't seem to engage the community, but they do have decent IPv6 coverage across the services. Notwithstanding that the whole VPC concept has the whiff of ancient days about it; 
tonight we're gonna network like it's 1999!
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>     EC2 as part of the address is a great idea. I am so stealing that (can't believe I haven't thought of it.)
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> It's a terrible idea. The "Unique" in ULA is on purpose.

True, and I can't condone it, but as long as they don't leak it, the only 
operator that can be damaged is AWS itself, so it's an own goal. In fact, 
even if they do leak it, any competent ISP will drop it.

     Brian

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>   Getting IPv6 private addressing right
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> https://blog.apnic.net/2020/05/20/getting-ipv6-private-addressing-right/ <https://blog.apnic.net/2020/05/20/getting-ipv6-private-addressing-right/>
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>     On Thu, Nov 25, 2021, 15:09 Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com <mailto:markzzzsmith@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>         On Thu, 25 Nov 2021, 23:51 Ca By, <cb.list6@gmail.com <mailto:cb.list6@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>             Fyi, aws has gone beyond perfunctory ipv6 support and has released a series of enhancements, with a focus on ipv6-only scenarios, including nat64 / dns64
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>             https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2021/11/aws-nat64-dns64-communication-ipv6-ipv4-services/ <https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2021/11/aws-nat64-dns64-communication-ipv6-ipv4-services/>
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>             AWS has lapped Google and Azure in advanced network features, which is really surprising given the early muscle Google developed at IPv6 launch and a stronger need to differentiate … 
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>         AWS failed to do ULAs properly. 'ec2' could be a random global ID, but unlikely when their service is "EC2".
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>         Matters more here because they're exposing that to all of their 
tenants. I think GUAs would have been better for these internal all tenant services.
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>         I've never seen AWS participate here in 20 years, unlike G and M.
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